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Topic: brew temps for espresso & Cimbali F (10 msgs / 568 lines)
1) From: Eric Faust
I am not quite sure how to react to the dissecting of my post. Please keep
in mind that I did not claim the Aurelia to be the best machine on the
market. I was simply informing the list about a hands on experience I had
with the Aurelia and the people who make it. I spoke highly about the
machine because I feel that it is worthy to be in company of the Marzoccos
and Synessos. I work regularly on a La Marzocco GB/5 and Synesso Cyncra
three group. I am well aware of the positive and negative aspects of these
machines. All I am saying is that the Aurelia is a well built machine with
some innovative components. It is also important to keep in mind the
Simonelli spent four years developing this machine based on research
performed by four different universities in Europe. This is an admirable
step for a machine manufacturer. There may be aspects of the machine that
are BS, but it is a step in the right direction. This is a machine that
passed the requirements for the USBC and a machine that is capable of
producing quality espresso when used by a competent barista. The information
I provided on the machine should help us discuss machine in further depth.
It should not be a list that needs to be disproved. Espresso and the
machines used to make it is a mystery that has brought us all here. I hope
that we can all look at the Aurelia and humbly pick it apart together.
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2) From: miKe mcKoffee
Take no offense to Ray's posts. Remember Ray's posts are often esoteric and
his espresso machine knowledge base is founded on his cheap leaky home
Capresso espresso machine not experience with high end prosumer let alone
commercial machines pushed to their performance limits in the cup by the top
baristas in the world. =
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3) From: Robert Flanery
I sonetimes think I should get a beer before I try to puzzle through Ray's
thoughts.
I Love reading the banter that goes along with you guys that are so
advanced.  I have NO knowledge of espresso whatsoever, and can honestly say
I have never had a proper shot of espresso from which to judge the art and
science that is espresso.  Having said that, I realize that the day will
come when that is my path, just as with most all here in the list.  So it is
good and informative reading that I enjoy the most, and talking about the
top end gear helps those of us luddophytes better hone our wish list for
that first machine.  You know the one, the same machine that will be sitting
on a shelf at the goodwill in two years, but will teach us what NOT to get
in a machine.
So keep the discussions coming.  I hope that by the time I come that
direction I will know enough to not buy a steam driven Black n wrecker.
Now back to my cup...
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4) From: Eric Faust
Thanks for keeping the prospective Mike.
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5) From: Les
Eric,
I learned a lot from your post.  It was nice to see how much work went
into the Aurelia.
The joys of pressure extraction!  It is a never ending adventure.
Les
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6) From: Eric Faust
Five years ago I purchased my first espresso machine. A simple krups and a
black and wrecker grinder. Sure enough I burnt out the grinder and the
espresso machine pulled more shots than the manufacturer thought was humanly
possible. I have moved my way up and through machines; continuing on to a
Ranchilio Silvia and rocky grinder, on to a Quickmill Anita with a mazzer
mini and now into the professional coffee world with a Marzocco GB/5 and
Synesso Cyncra, both with mazzer roburs. It is a quest that continues to
find new peaks and I encourage you to push the barriers. Every machine has
the potential to teach you something and every machine has the potential to
hold you back from what you want. The quest of coffee is finding the balance
that leads to new discoveries. I encourage you to buy that first machine (it
might not be ideal) and learn everything you can from it. I am still
learning and I love it.
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7) From: Paul Helbert
I look for Ray's by-line and usually read it first. Sometimes I get a belly
laugh from it, other times I'm just left wondering. I'm guessing he is a
retired engineer. Am I close?
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Robert,
Robert said, "I sonetimes think I should get a beer before I try to
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Sometimes I think I have chugged  a 6 pack of beers when I read his posts.
Les
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10) From: Bryan Wray
Les I totally agree...
-Bry
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