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Topic: IR2 thermometer (9 msgs / 184 lines)
1) From: John M. Howison
Just initiated my new IR2 with a load of Salvador Matalapa peaberry that SM
unloaded as one of my "sampler" varieties.  Didn't weigh the beans,
but roasted about the same amount that was usually the peaberry max in my
old IR2 -- about two thirds of a cup.  Used Preset 1 and watched the beans
reach what my eyes and nose told me was City+ or so -- my ears are not good
enough to hear First Crack above the noise of motor and fan.  The roast
lasted six and a half minutes
Won't try the roast before tomorrow at earliest, but was amazed to find that
the roaster's thermometer showed a temperature of only 360 Fahrenheit.  Are
the IR1 thermometers often so useless?
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2) From: Bob Hazen
John,
I never was able to correlate the thermometer in my IR1 with reality.  I 
quit trying and stuck with listening for cracks and watching the beans.  I 
good halogen light shining on the roast chamber can be a help.  I understand 
the thermometer was not only wrong, but it varied from unit to unit.  Some 
folks have said later IR2 thermometers are better than the IR1 or early IR2, 
but still not very useful.
Even with good ears, it's not so easy to hear the cracks over the ruckus of 
the I-Roast.  After using one, the justification for the name I-Roar is 
clear.  I found it made some difference by adjusting my position relative to 
the roaster.  Moving away from it or getting my head down lower helped.  I 
think the high frequency cracks came through better at greater distance and 
that getting lower than the exhaust reduced it's adverse impact on hearing 
the cracks.
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moved up from IR1 to IR2.  I'm wondering what your thoughts were in staying 
with the I-Roast.  I had had enough of the noise and small batch size when I 
bought my Behmor.  I haven't used the I-Roast since!
Bob

3) From: Brian Kamnetz
John,
I noticed you mentioned a type of coffee that SM "unloaded" as part of
a sampler. You may have not intended it this way, but in case your
impression is that the sampler packs are comprised of poor quality
coffees that SM unloads a little cheaper than the "good" coffees, I
have found the opposite to be true. The samplers are the same
wonderful coffees that we select and buy individually. When it is time
to reorder greens I always start with an 8-pound double sampler, then
fill out with a few individually-selected varieties. Through the
samplers I have been exposed to great coffees that I probably wouldn't
have chosen otherwise. Many others on the list have said the same over
the years. Bottom line, don't be afraid of using the samplers to
explore the wide world of coffees available from Tom and Maria.
Brian
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:06 PM, John M. Howison  wrote:
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4) From: Gary Foster
I will second that.  I have only bought the sampler twice and both  
times I have been very impressed with the selections.  Also, both  
times it included at least a couple of the coffees that people on the  
list were racing about.  Implying that they are "unloading" subpar  
coffee is a grave disservice.
-- Gary F.
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On Oct 6, 2008, at 8:24, "Brian Kamnetz"  wrote:
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5) From: Robert Flanery
I think it is pretty much the consensus that there are no bad beans at SM.
So that being said, I think he might have meant that they were rotating
stock to make room for new arrivals.  I have yet to taste a bad coffee from
them, just bad roasts on my part.  I sure can trash a bean...
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6) From: raymanowen
"...SM unloaded as one of my "sampler" varieties."
I think the only beans that get "unloaded" at Sweet Maria's have first
passed muster on the cupping bench. Otherwise, the distributor gets them
back.
They seek out, they cup, they receive, store, package and ship so that their
customers can select from a catalog sheet. The expectation is that customers
receive SM coffee with no need to reinvent the wheel and cup before
consuming, unless cupping is to be learned.
Cheers, Mabuhay and Magandang Tanghali -RayO, aka Opa!
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7) From: Steve Barber
Folks I dont think that John meant that the way that it sounded to some of
you. I believe that he was just making a statement that he roasted some of
the beans that he got with his roaster. Sometimes in an email or text
message it is hard to tell the tone of things. If John didnt believe in the
quality of the beans at SM's he wouldnt be on this list as often as he seems
to be. His question was about his roaster and not about bean quality.
My 2 cents worth
Steve
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8) From: raymanowen
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On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Steve Barber  wrote:
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9) From: Brian Kamnetz
Steve,
I agree, and John, my apologies if my response read as though I
thought otherwise. I was simply trying to say that in my opinion the
sampler packs are a great way to go.
Brian
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Steve Barber  wrote:
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