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Topic: Any word on Jamaica Blue Mountain (18 msgs / 371 lines)
1) From: Seth Grandeau
I saw something on JBM just recently and it made me realize that it's been a
while since Tom's offered any (other than the Kona grown JBM).  Just curious
if anyone has heard anything.  Is it a quality issue or an availability
issue?
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2) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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It's at the core of the issue. this year was especially awful. I was 
holding out some hopes for a peaberry lot ... when the same arrived 
the coffee was so low grown and soft (evidenced by how much the 
creases opened) that it nearly unfolded itself into a flat bean. It 
was bizarre. I had never seen that. Needless to say, the cup tasted 
like someone served flavorless coffee in a cardboard cup. They say 
that the best JBM now goes to Japan, but in reality I am becoming 
doubtful that "best Jamaica" isn't an oxymoron, or at last something 
that needs to be followed with a lot of qualifiers. Anyway, we'll see 
next year ...
tom
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3) From: Michael Vanecek
Usually when someone sells something of quality and it makes money, many 
others jump in and try to do quick and cheap, and the original has to go 
quick and cheap to keep up. Chances are that JBM was at one time indeed 
a very fine coffee and now has become quick and cheap, bouyed only by 
the name. Pretty sad.
Be well,
Mike
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4) From: golfermd01
Tom, thanks so much for your honest feedback! It is truly one of the things that has kept me as a regular customer of Sweet Maria's (and sole source of beans for me). The reviews and write ups accurately reflect what I roast and cup at home. Yeah, I know you run out of coffees that I like. But I'd rather you say you are out and wait 'til the next crop arrives. And I have the confidence that you will only sell something you think worthy of your name.
Thanks again for Sweet Maria's. We are the happy recipient of your work and dedication...
Dan
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5) From: John Mac
I recall reading that the Island's coffee plantations were pretty much
whiped out a few years back when one of the killer hurricanes ran the length
of the country. All of the best JBM coffee trees were torn from the earth,
never to bear fruit again:(
John in Nor Cal
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6) From: miKe mcKoffee
I believe the issue with JBM poor quality has been more severe weather
related than "bandwagon" issues. JBM is pretty tightly regulated.
miKe 
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7) From: Michael Vanecek
And this tight regulation results in such a poor cup?
Be well,
Mike
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8) From: miKe mcKoffee
Jamaican regulations dictate specifically what areas of Jamaica coffee can
originate and be called Jamaica Blue Mountain and size/defect grading
specifications. Visual color, moisture content, size and lack of apparent
defective beans does not guarantee a stellar cup. Also remember what some or
many might consider a "decent" cup isn't what Tom seeks to carry, especially
at the prices of JBM.
Regulations don't dictate Mother Nature and hurricanes or droughts or
pestilence... 
And it may be that with adverse conditions affecting crop and hence exports
and hence their economy the Jamaican regulatory body may be letting
standards slide, I don't know. I'm damn sure it's something our politicians
would do and charge each and every one of us commoners and our posterity for
generations to come doing it. Especially if it benefits a few key wealthy
gambling money mongers not the farmers. Maybe we've exported the economic
"American Way" to Jamaica. I digress...
I was responding to the assertion there was "fake" JBM being peddled. I
don't believe that's the case. Or maybe it is if regulatory body letting non
JBM areas of Jamaica coffee growing be exported as JBM. Regardless
regulations followed or not can't guarantee a great cup, only cupping can do
that. Enter Tom...
miKe
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9) From: Dennis
Well since I am in the neighborhood and ALOT of TCN's are Jamaican 
(Third Country Nationals-workers for the base) I will start asking 
around teh base to see what I can discover about JBM, never know I might 
be able to get some of it.... but I will let you all know what I find out.
V/R,
Dennis
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10) From: Brian Kamnetz
Dennis, that sounds interesting. I look forward to hearing what you find out.
Brian
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11) From: Michael I
Here's an article published today about how Jamaica is trying to trademark
"Blue Mountain" (as opposed to Jamaica Blue Mountain) as a Geographic
Indication, so those nasty Kenyans and Ethiopians don't continue to try to
hijack it.http://tinyurl.com/44ywk8Nothing there about quality, just protecting their brand.
-AdkMike

12) From: Dennis
didn't *$'s try that a few years back with regions in Africa and get 
shot down?
Dennis
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13) From: Tom Ulmer
The best beverage coming out of Jamaica right now is Ting. Make sure you
give it a try - ice cold and in the 9 ounce bottle.
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Dennis  wrote:
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14) From: Michael I
I'd have to say that Appleton 21 Year is the best Jamaican beverage, but
I'll give Ting 2nd, and Guinness Foreign Extra Stout 3rd.  Luckily, Appleton
& Ting go very well together, too, but just the Reserve is good enough for
that application.
Well, I'm off to make myself a drink...
-AdkMike

15) From: Robert Flanery
Should you have the opportunity to try any Tanduay 12 year old Rum you
should definately do so.  A Product of the Philippines, it may be the best
rum I have ever tasted.  I have to disclose at this point that I have never
had Appleton 21YO, an error I will soon correct.  But the Tanduay is
DEFINATELY worth the effort.
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16) From: dfluke
I think this was featured on Alton Brown / Food Networks Feasting on 
Waves. I remember wanting to try it.
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17) From: Tom Ulmer
That was an enjoyable program and in my mind I was developing the marital
pitch for such a lifestyle. Alas, Jan gets sea sick just standing on the
dock. I recall mauby, bush tea, and coconut water but I don't believe I
caught all the programs.

18) From: Pat Sklenar
Tom Ulmer wrote:
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I caught all four episodes (I love his "Feasting" series') and Mauby was 
the big one that kept being brought up all the time followed by Bush 
Tea.  I don't recall Ting ever being mentioned.  Also, no mention of 
coffee in any of the episodes. :(
pat----
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