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Topic: OT: grinding wheat with coffee grinder? (3 msgs / 131 lines)
1) From: Brian Kamnetz
Kris,
Bottom line: the 151 should grind grain, but it would be a LOT of work.
Tom has a page on the Zass grain mill, which of course is made for
grinding grain, not coffee:http://www.sweetmarias.com/zass.grainmill.htmland Tom mentions grinding grain with it. One big difference is the
(big) handle on the grain mill:
In this image you can see the ABS plastic handle, which made me
nervous but, upon inspection, is really designed for heavy use
Again for comparison, in terms of the amount that is comfortable to
grind with a grain mill:
As a home brewer that uses malt extract and then mashes 1-3 lbs of
grain for flavor, this mill suits my needs famously. A customer who
does all-grain (12-15 lbs) brewing bought one and found the mill
doesn't meet his needs for that kind of volume
I have a grain mill clamped to my counter and use it daily to grind
coffee. Two things about the grain mill - being clamped to the
counter, and the big handle - make it much easier to use than a box
mill is. So, again, that might give you an idea of what it might be
like to grind grain with your 151.
Getting back to your 151, on another page Tom says
The adjustment on a Grain Mill is a bit different even though the
burrs are the same high quality machined type.
So, a bit more evidence that the 151 can grind grain, but again, it
would be a lot of work if you are grinding very much. I think that,
rather than the possibility of ruining the grinder, is the main issue.
Ray has ground grain, forget which kind, to make bread with a coffee
mill, using his "silver fire plug" (aka Mazzer Major), and maybe he
will chime in here.
Brian
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Kris Bhatti  wrote:
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2) From: raymanowen
Ah, yes-
I have used the Mazzer Major (BUFF) to grind Hard Red Winter wheat to bread
flour. There is no way to purchase fresh milled bread flour. "Whole Wheat"
flour is allegedly available, but many constituents have been removed from
the wheat grain so that the castrated product won't oxidize and stale so
rapidly.
Whole Grain whole wheat flour is not likely available for purchase anywhere.
It couldn't possibly be intact and fresh, so why bake with it?
I would hate to grind flour with a hand grinder, knowing that flour is far
finer than a normal espresso or even Turkish grind.
   - The burrs touch at Zero.
   - Ten threads of the adjusting nut = 0.606667"
   - One turn of the nut = 0.0606667"
   - Each turn is subdivided into 10 cardinal divisions, each with 10
   subdivisions = 100 total/turn
   - 1=0.000606667"; 2=0.0012133"; 3=0.0018200"
Flour is great at 2 or 3. It's harder to clean out of the grinder because
it's so fine. Don't pull a Senior Weisenheimer Moment and just throw in some
beans later without readjusting. Coffee flour in the portafilter basket was
pure Hell. I didn't try- the coffee flour came out of the filter mesh like
pepper out of a shaker.
Turkish grind at 6 once. Interesting brew using glass cup, hot water out of
TV arm, heated intermittently in microwave to just below boiling for 1:30
total, I think. Very interesting way to brew. Really have to tinker with
that one some more, Brian.
Oh, yeah- espresso has been best at 19, 19.5, and 20. Glad you asked- latest
shot was from a blend of two FR batches of Uganda Bugisu + one batch of
Indian Monsooned Malabar Gold. Karen, my Celtic Critic, said the 20 grind
was "Flavorless!!"
Don't get it- the filter was really heaped twice, tapped down twice and
tamped lightly to level it and even the surface. Next will be a 19.5
(0.0118") instead of the 20 (0.0121"). The morning cup is already taking
shape!
Cheers, Mabuhay and Magandang Umaga -RayO, aka Opa!
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3) From: raymanowen
This is nuts- the last 2 decimal digits are a fraud in these numbers:
   - Ten threads of the adjusting nut = .606667"
   - One turn of the nut = 0.0606667"
   - Each turn is subdivided into 10 cardinal divisions, each with 10
   subdivisions = 100 total/turn
   - 1=0.000606667"; 2=0.0012133"; 3=0.0018200"
Drop the last 2 digits, that I couldn't interpolate from my dial calipers.
(Ten threads = 0.6067") The following numbers are all derivatives and losing
the last digits won't change the value.
Dum de DUM DUM! -ro
Boy needs more Nectar! Not- I'll goof something else.
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