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Topic: drip coffee brewers - 2 questions (13 msgs / 389 lines)
1) From: MSMB
1.  I am not sure why --maybe just nostalgia-- I tried out my Presto
Scandinavian which had died on me several weeks ago and in a spirit of
wishful thinking, lo and behold, it worked! I quickly got my digital
thermomenter which works pretty quickly and yup, it was getting the water up
to 197 degrees, maybe even to 200, at the hottest.  So quickly I got out my
vinegar and ran it through thinking that maybe the fact that I never
descaled it had something to do with its problem, and then I washed out the
inside of the water chamber, turned it over to dump the water and... like
Orpheus looking back at his beloved wife too soon it was lost again.  The
electronics go on and after just a few spurts of water it stops.  I will
bet, though, that if I let the machine sit (and I guess that means dry out),
it will work again, at least once.  Does anyone have any ideas on what is
going wrong; is there any easy fix?
2.  Since the Scandinavian has been out of commission I have been quite
happily using an old Norelco 10; it might be 30 years old.  I actually have
two of these at home, though one is not mine.  One of them doesn't get the
water hot enough; my measurement with the digital thermometer is to around
172 as the water flows.  But I tested the good Norelco also just to compare
with the Scandinavian, and was surprised to find that the water flows out of
it up to only around 188, maybe fleetingly up to 195; it must reach 195
toward the end because when I drink my coffee it is very hot, in the 170s,
almost too hot, though I can live with letting it cool for just a bit.  I
thought that maybe the problem is with my thermometer cooling down because
the Norelco seems to work in spurts of hot water; a heavy flow that runs
down to a trickle before another heavy flow.  The coffee does taste pretty
good but I wonder if I am missing something.  So I tried using hot water
from my Zojirushi air pot in the chamber of the worse of the two Norelco
coffee makers, and as you would expect the water flowed at between 192 and
197.  
So here is the question; the Norelco is a very heave plastic and stainless
steel device.  Would I destroy the machine if I used hot water in the
chamber to make my coffee every day; I keep the Zojirushi going just about
all of the time anyway.  Or, do manufacturers advise against starting with
hot water not because of any potential danger to the device but only because
they are afraid of burns?  Do you have any opinions?
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2) From: J.W.Bullfrog
I'm not sure that you would get any hotter brew water since its boiling
water that pumps the water thru the system.
Why don't you measure it?
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:22 PM, MSMB  wrote:
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3) From: MSMB
Yes you do get hotter water; I measured earlier this evening.

4) From: J.W.Bullfrog
That would mean that the boiling water is mixing with the hotter ambient
water to get a higher temp.
The real question is, does it matter if it dies an early death? Didn't sound
like it was doing the job anyway.
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:49 PM, MSMB  wrote:
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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5) From: Rich Adams
I recommended a Presto to a co-worker some years ago when they were 
available @ Costco.
His succumbed to the same symptoms as you describe.
His easy fix was to buy a Technivorm.  His wife wanted to hang on to the 
Presto as she loved the brew it produced hoping that "maybe it can be 
fixed".
When he arrived to work after his first morning with the new Technivorm he 
gets an IM from his wife, "tossed Presto in trash".  She tried her first cup 
from the Technivorm and it was all over for the Presto.
My wife is on her second Melitta Clarity now as her first one died.  I 
bought her a Technivorm for a Christmas present.  They are on back order 
these days as I guess their popularity is growing.
Respectfully,
Rich Adams

6) From: J.W.Bullfrog
Actually my TV is at work for the weekday coffee. Figured I drank 5/7ths of
my coffee there.
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Rich Adams  wrote:
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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7) From: MSMB
Yes, but the TV is over $200 and the stock market is headed to 6000 (DOW).
Besides I like the challenge of finding the bargain (but the next one will
be the TV.. or I understand the new Newcos are pretty good... I also have
heard that there is a Phillips Norelco that sells for around $40 that is
rated at 1400 watts and gets the water up to where it should be.  But I
agree, the next one will likely be the TV.)

8) From: MSMB
I had a Melitta Clarity and liked it a lot; more than the Presto.  But it
did not have an automatic shutoff and at that time we were too used to it;
so I kept destroying the carafe and it was getting too expensive to replace.
That is when I found the Presto I have had it for two or three years.  The
good Norelco that I have really is not too bad; I still can't believe the
temp is only at 188.  But I will try using the boiling water in the tank.  I
just tried it again and it works very well getting it up to pretty
consistently between 192 and 197 and even as high as 200.

9) From: J.W.Bullfrog
Understand. But I had just switched job, etc.
Also, at my last place I has a Faema Compact plumbed in, so......
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:35 PM, MSMB  wrote:
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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10) From: Jim Couch
If I ever do anything beside a press type pot again it'll be to replace the
chemex that got broken in an unfortunate "bathing accident" fall.
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:14 PM, J. W. Bullfrog wrote:
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11) From: Rich Adams

12) From: MSMB
What is a "bathing accident"  ?

13) From: J.W.Bullfrog
probably droped while washing
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:34 PM, MSMB  wrote:
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
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