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Topic: Aeropress with a goldfilter (30 msgs / 777 lines)
1) From:
just got back from a conference in seattle where I took my aeropress and cup and imersion heater.
A few weeks ago, I cut two circular filters out of a gold coffee filter that I was not using for the aeropress. I just wanted to report back on its use.
I use both filters in place of the paper filter in the regular up and down configuration. Easy to clean and use. Excellent cup once the grind is right. Fuller flavor than the paper filter. Almost no sediment in the cup and the method still retains most of the pressure of the paper...so that the water does not all drip in the cup while stirring. Well worth it IMHO.
Also found out that you can put the immersion heater conveniently in the upper plunger water space. I thought it might melt the plastic...but it didn't, and reduced having to transfer the water.
The aeropress, gold discs, immersion heater, coffee scoop, and whirly blade grinder makes a very pleasant travel buddy...for about 50 bucks.
Dean De Crisce
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2) From: Brian Kamnetz
Dean,
You mention two things that I am having trouble combining.
One thing was when you were talking about using two circular filters,
cut from a gold coffee filter, in the AeroPress, and you mention
"Excellent cup once the grind is right... still retains most of the
pressure of the paper...so that the water does not all drip in the cup
while stirring."
The other thing was when you were mentioning, "The aeropress, gold
discs, immersion heater, coffee scoop, and whirly blade grinder makes
a very pleasant travel buddy".
My question is, can you control the grind well enough with the whirly
blade grinder that you can control the flow through the gold filter
disks?
Brian
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3) From: Brian Kamnetz
Dean,
Another question.... I reread your message and saw the part, "cut two
circular filters out of a gold coffee filter". In my first reading I
was thinking Swiss Gold... is the filter you used Swiss Gold, or
something like the gold filters that can be purchased at many grocery
stores?
Thanks,
Brian
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No...for the trip I used both paper and the gold filter...i still thing the gold was better...but no comparison to when I use it at home. I truly see the difference that the grind can make. But it could certainly work in a pinch...i ran the whirly smallest 'grind setting' for longest time.
Dean De Crisce
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I'm embarrased to say that...yes...it is true...i used the 'gold tone.' I had a #2 for a melitta pourover, just as a auxillary method. When I got the aeropress...i said...chuck that thing! this is way easier and cleaner. So I got the idea to cut two disks out of the screen. They both fit fine in the aeropress filter. Actually I'd like to try three...when I have some time.
Its such a rippin quick easy tasty one cup method...i love it. 
Dean De Crisce
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No...for the trip I used both paper and the gold filter...i still thing the gold was better...but no comparison to when I use it at home. I truly see the difference that the grind can make. But it could certainly work in a pinch...i ran the whirly smallest 'grind setting' for longest time.
Dean De Crisce
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I'm embarrased to say that...yes...it is true...i used the 'gold tone.' I had a #2 for a melitta pourover, just as a auxillary method. When I got the aeropress...i said...chuck that thing! this is way easier and cleaner. So I got the idea to cut two disks out of the screen. They both fit fine in the aeropress filter. Actually I'd like to try three...when I have some time.
Its such a rippin quick easy tasty one cup method...i love it. 
Dean De Crisce
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8) From: Brian Kamnetz
Thanks, Dean. I was wondering... I have a grocery-store gold basket
that I got one time, thinking I would rig a brewer with it when I
broke they only brewing method I had at that time, a press pot. I
couldn't make the gold basket work then, and haven't used it since.
I've been lugging it around (I should say I THINK I still have it) and
when I saw your post I began wondering whether I could cut it into
screens for my AP (when I start using my AP, that is...).
Brian
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9) From: Marc
Dean,
Great idea - I cut 2 circles out of an old 'gold-toned' drip filter and have
been using it for my AP. I really like what it does, adds a little body and
flavor to the pressing.
Thanks for sharing,
-Marc
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I went to seattle last weekend for a conference. I visited vivace and got some of their espresso dolce. It is too dark a roast for me...but I have been enjoying it everyday (got a pound) via the aeropress and gold tone filter.
I'm trying to play with different grind so that I maintain pressure and the coffee doesn't just pass through. I have been using a grind smaller than the regular grind with the paper filter.
I'd love to hear how you have been experimenting. Since those filters are so cheap (8$) I've thought maybe a third would be better. Overall I like it...more oils, more flavor...less paper.
Ciao.
Dean De Crisce
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11) From: Angelo
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Have you tried the poly filters? They let the oils through and there 
still seems to be pressure without having to make the grind too fine.
Also, you might use the inverted method. The grounds might swell by 
being in contact with the hot water longer, thereby giving you the 
resistance you seek...
Disclaimer: I haven't used my Areo in about a year, so I'm speaking 
from (a rather fragmented) memory...
A.
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12) From: Joseph Robertson
Dean,
Could you pass on a source for the 8.00 gold you mention. Hopefully Tom will
carry these soon as well.
JoeR
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I got a #2 mr coffee (yeah I know) gold tone filter at my local A&P market to try with a mellita plastic 1 cup funnel.
Here are others about 7-10 bucks. 
www.bizrate.com/coffeemakeraccessories/products__att259818--23100-0120__keyword--gold+tone+coffee+filter.html
I don't know that tom would carry these because they are junk. I didn't want to buy and cut up a swiss gold until I was sure it would work.
Dean De Crisce
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14) From: Joseph Robertson
Ahhh,
I see, I missed the gold tone part. If I was Tom I would not carry them.
Thanks Dean
JoeR
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15) From: Marc
Dean,
I haven't had much time to experiment - so far I'm using the same grind as I
did for the paper filters, it does press easier. I will try it with a finer
grind and report back.
BTW, I'm using the same gold-toned filter you described - it was for a
melitta filter cone and less than $10. BTW, it lost the gold-tone pretty
quickly, it's now more of a plain metal gray color.
-Marc
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16) From: Robert Flanery
I think I missed the whole discussion on poly filters earlier.  Any source
on getting a couple of them?  I would be up for trying a couple of different
techniques with the Aero.  Love the coffee I get from it.  It is my go to
device for when I want to see where a bean is in the aging process.
Speaking of which, this Sidamo from the Behmor is rather delicious tonight.
I really looking forward to a couple of SM's newer offerings over the next
couple of weeks.
Cheers. Rob
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17) From: R Nepsund
I got my poly felt from mcmaster.com  part number 6376T31
You probably only need to get 1 square foot though.    You might want to try
to find a FDA approved  five micron polyester filter felt somewhere.   Use
oxyclean to clean it.  I have been using that for the last 3 weeks and it's
almost as good as new.
Also I wasn't happy with the idea of doing surgery on the AP end cap so
instead of doing that I thinned the edge of the filter disk so it would fit.
  I did it by splitting the edge with a serrated knife and then using some
scissors to cut 1/2 of that off.
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18) From: Brian Kamnetz
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Thanks for the tip!
Brian
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19) From: Bob Glasscock
I received my polyfelt from McMaster and was disappointed that I could not
get the filter holder to close, so the pf ended up on "the" shelf. I will
pull it down and try your surgery on the felt as I, too, contemplated taking
the dremel to the AP and nixed that idea. Long and short is that since I
have enough polyfelt to reupholster my Alfa Romeo Spider, I will be glad to
share a sq. ft. with anyone who would like a swatch. Think it should go 1st
Class mail. Email me off list at bobglass with your mailing
address.
Bob Glasscock
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I got my poly felt from mcmaster.com  part number 6376T31
You probably only need to get 1 square foot though.    You might want to try
to find a FDA approved  five micron polyester filter felt somewhere.   Use
oxyclean to clean it.  I have been using that for the last 3 weeks and it's
almost as good as new.
Also I wasn't happy with the idea of doing surgery on the AP end cap so
instead of doing that I thinned the edge of the filter disk so it would fit.
  I did it by splitting the edge with a serrated knife and then using some
scissors to cut 1/2 of that off.
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Its was all the talk about the polyfilters that made me think about the metal filter. I'd like to  try it...but i had an uneasy feeling about synthetic fibers filtering something I am drinking...metal seems more inert.
Dean De Crisce
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Its was all the talk about the polyfilters that made me think about the metal filter. I'd like to  try it...but i had an uneasy feeling about synthetic fibers filtering something I am drinking...metal seems more inert.
Dean De Crisce
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22) From:
Its was all the talk about the polyfilters that made me think about the metal filter. I'd like to  try it...but i had an uneasy feeling about synthetic fibers filtering something I am drinking...metal seems more inert.
Dean De Crisce
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23) From:
Its was all the talk about the polyfilters that made me think about the metal filter. I'd like to  try it...but i had an uneasy feeling about synthetic fibers filtering something I am drinking...metal seems more inert.
Dean De Crisce
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24) From: Joseph Robertson
Go for the gold. the ultimate inert.
JoeR
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25) From: Captain CowPie
I have been using the poly filter with the Aeropress for about two  
years and really enjoy the cup it produces, especially the oils. But I  
had always hoped that Alan or a third party would offer a nice metal  
filter designed specifically for the AP. Maybe these discussions (and  
others on the net) will prompt someone with the means to produce one.  
Since I throw my polys away each week and also would like something  
more inert, I am willing to pay a good amount for a nice metal filter.
I am guessing, though, that there is just not enough demand to justify  
the expense. But it could be a nice niche market for someone who knows  
what they are doing.
Vince
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26) From: Dean De Crisce
it is very easy to either cut down a replacement FP filter...or pourover
filter...which works just fine.
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27) From: R Nepsund
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I used to toss my poly filters after a week, but oxyclean in hot water can
clean them up almost as good as new.   I leave mine soaking in it between
uses.
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28) From: R Nepsund
To correct my post.  I'm using oxiclean not oxyclean.  They are diferent
products.
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29) From: Brian Kamnetz
The Wikipedia entry is confusing on this point, and needs work:
"OxiClean" is the trademark name of this product, though it may
commonly be found with a 'y' as OxyClean - Oxygen+Cleaning. Official
product from Church and Dwight only uses "OxiClean" and all trademarks
are registered to the US Patent Office with this name. OxyClean can be
found registered as "ADDITIVES FOR FLUID CATALYTIC CRACKING", used as
an online air filter company name, and used as Indian home electronics
company.
Brian
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30) From: Captain CowPie
Is Oxiclean safe for food use? I don't know about the product. I  
always worry about cleaning mine out and having some residual soap  
stuck in the poly.
I soak mine in boiling water before using it each time, and then again  
after each use. I also freeze them in a Ziplock in between uses just  
in case. I think Scott Marquardt was the one who suggested freezing  
between uses.
Either way, it certainly makes a great cup of coffee!
Vince
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