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Topic: starting with hot water in drip brewer (8 msgs / 205 lines)
1) From: MSMB
For the past couple of days I have been experimenting with filling the water
chamber of my old Norelco drip brewer with boiling water.  Since I keep hot
water ready all day (and usually even forget to turn off the zoji at night)
it is always there.  The water temp is great within just a few seconds; it
begins to pour and after a second or two is at around 192; then it is up
over 195 and just briefly was up to 208.  But for some reason the brewed
coffee was pouring into my mug at around 140 degrees.  I think the problem
is that the machine detects the water to be hot enough to flow even before
the hot plat has a chance to warm up.  The solution is to just briefly
(while getting the coffee ready for brewing) turn the coffee maker on and
get the hot plate started.  These old Norelcos had a light that went on when
the coffee was finished (I suppose that is when the hot plate sensed a
certain heat level). When the "finished" light is on the water will no
longer flow.  So after heating up the hot plate for a while you have to pull
the plug on the machine till the light goes off.  But the hote plate already
has a head start, and by the time the water has flowed through you have a
brew at the right temperature.  Not sure if this will work on cheaper thrift
store machines.  The Noelco was a really good brewer though by the very need
to pure hot water through mine it is clear that they have a life span and
begin to lose their ability to heat the water fully on their own. Kind of an
interesting thing though. A poor man's TV?
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2) From: Robert Flanery
I do this alot and find that the hot plate heats up by passing the cold tap
water through the coffee machine to heat it the first time, and then
repouring it through with the basket in place.  The hot plate is up to temp
by then.  I am finding with my old machine that I only need to pour about
two third's of the volume of water I want through the first time to get the
second pass up to around 195 or higher.  I do this with coffee to be poured
into a thermos for work each afternoon before I go to my second job.  Makes
for a nice hot thermos of coffee that stays that way for several hours.  And
the coffee certainly tastes drinkable to me.
I still plan on getting a new machine, but this is working for now.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:27 AM, MSMB  wrote:
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3) From: Brian Kamnetz
This discussion of the old Norelco drip brewers is very interesting to
me. There is a Norelco 12-cup (I think) brewer at my family home in
Wisconsin. Since 1980 it has been used for one week every year, with
no maintenance. It makes very good coffee (with my homeroast), though
we can make only half a pot at a time or the grounds overflow. It's
interesting to see the very high temp measurements in some (not all)
similar brewers. It's a very nice looking brewer, very sleek. There's
a photo on eBay for one:http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-NORELCO-12-C-Dial-A-Brew-Coffee-Maker-m_W0QQitemZ330281572957QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330281572957&_trkparmsr%3A1234%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14Brian
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:27 AM, MSMB  wrote:
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4) From: Brian Kamnetz
Incidentally, the coffee grounds basket in the Norelco photo looks
different than the one at my family home in Wisconsin. That one is a
simple cyllinder, with no handle etc.
Brian
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5) From: Bob Hazen
That brings back memories!  My folks had one when I was a kid.  They'd use 
(gack) MJB from the Big Green Can.  Nobody knew any better.  Every night, 
Dad would fill the machine with water, and put some "coffee" in the basket 
before going to bed.  It was on a timer, so he'd have "fresh" coffee in the 
morning.
One night, he filled 'er up and absent-mindedly went back to the sink and 
filled up the carafe again.  He set the water-filler carafe back on the 
machine and set the timer.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........
Next morning, the "coffee" was a little weak.  And I suppose thin too, as in 
a thin layer on the floor.  He took a razzing for a while after that one.
Bob

6) From: raymanowen
"...after heating up the hot plate for a while you have to pull the plug on
the machine till the light goes off" ? ? ?
Say What? We had an old floor console radio- when the plug was pulled, the
magic tuning eye went off along with about 15 other tubes and the dial
lights all cooled off. No waiting, it all happened pretty fast. Ed Murrow
kept talking for a couple of seconds, until the filter caps discharged.
It sounds like you got a tiger by the tail- better patent it!
Cheers, Mabuhay and Magandang Gabi -RayO, aka Opa!
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:27 PM, MSMB  wrote:
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7) From: miKe mcKoffee
No, just a very tight plug and takes a lot of pulling. That or someone needs
to do some strength training exercises:-) 
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8) From: MSMB
Actually, I have subsequently found out that that what happens is that after
a few minutes, after pouring the water--hot or otherwise--into the water
chamber the light goes off.  In other words,  you plug in the machine and
the "finished" light goes on; the hot plate (and heating element?) heats up;
pour water into the chamber and wait a minute or so and the light goes off;
after a minute or so the water begins to flow.  Actually, I have begun to
think that I do not even need hot water to start; that I have not been using
the brewer correctly.  It might be necessary, even with cold water to
preheat the machine.  As soon as I can replace my recently broken
thermometer I will measure the water temp.


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