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Topic: OT: Deming and quality production, (4 msgs / 94 lines)
1) From: Brian Kamnetz
Ray,
Good point on Deming. Very interesting guy. Didn't believe in
top-down, which is why the Americans weren't interested. American
industry (American bureaucracy in general)  is all about top-down mgt.
I used hear an expression a lot: "They pay me from the neck down." It
was always from a frustrated guy who had a better way of doing things,
but there was no way for info to flow upward in the hierarchy. The
only recourse was to sigh and do it in the way decreed "right". Toyota
management is "son of Deming".
When the original post came through, I looked around for the "Toyota
trained American workers for 6 months before shipping the first far"
source. I didn't find it, but I did find some interesting info. Toyota
employees go through 40 hours of training before they do any
production. First focus is on safety, next focus is on quality.
Back to "on topic", glad to hear that you are getting so much
enjoyment from your moka pot.
Brian
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 1:35 AM,   wrote:
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2) From: raymanowen
Yesterday evening's brew was 12 hour C+ Costa Rica PB in the moka pot, right
after a double of same. Not like the Brazil Cerrado...Formosa that's huge
right out of the roaster.
I can appreciate "Toyota trained American workers for 6 months before
shipping the first far"
I was a member of UAW - CIO Local 974 in Peoria at CAT for a summer (+). I
take all kinds of abuse for "Wrecking the job," when I mention that I made
child's play of the job rated at 84 parts completed per shift.
Within two months of starting the job, I was doing 440 parts per shift, and
I stamped every one so they wouldn't have question marks floating around in
their beans. [Coffee Related!]
And the inspector passed them all. Teach Ray. Leave machines botched, tools
all worn out. Hisself notices how they run with fresh setups and sharp tools
- like a bat bailing out of the hot spot.
Cheers, Mabuhay and Magandang Umaga -RayO, aka Opa!
"Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action." - -Johann
Wolfgang von Goethe
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3) From: Michael Wascher
So you had a nice summer job ... now do it for 10 years and report back.
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4) From: Jim Gundlach
I worked the summer between my Junior and Senior year of high school  
on the Custer County Oklahoma County bridge crew.  Back then we build  
the bridges out of wood treated with creosote. One of my rather  
athletic fellow students was a similar rate buster.  Then on break at  
lunch on a very hot sunny day, he was complaining about the creosote  
splatters burning his face and arms and said:  "Boy I'm glad I don't  
have to do this for a living."  He looked around and saw the regulars  
on the crew glowering at him.  Later I told him that his creosote  
splatters were due to his hitting the boards too hard with his hammer  
when the nails were all the way in.  There is more to a working  
person's life than just making the company as much money as possible.
        pecan jim
On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Michael Wascher wrote:
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