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Topic: OxiClean, was Aeropress with a goldfilter (20 msgs / 392 lines)
1) From: Brian Kamnetz
I was curious about OxiClean and looked it up in Wikipedia. Here is
what it says:
OxiClean is a sodium percarbonate (C2H6Na4O12) detergent and bleaching
agent which produces hydrogen peroxide when dissolved in water. ...
OxiClean works through hydrogen peroxide molecules bound within a
sodium carbonate structure. Hydrogen peroxide is a strong oxidizing
substance which will "bleach" the stains away.[2]
I looked up sodium percarbonate and found that it can be purchased
online, Price: $5.50 / 2lb Jar.
Sounds like it essentially is bleach.
I'd welcome any correct to th above, or any comments by anyone who
knows anything else on this topic.
Brian
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2) From: Dean De Crisce
At least from a clothing point of view it is not the same as bleach, as it
can be used with colors.
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3) From: Brian Kamnetz
Dean,
I think you may be referring to "chlorine" bleach (not safe for
colors) vs. "non-chlorine" bleach (safe for colors) . I am no expert
at this, but I am interested.  I googled "non chlorine bleach" and
wound around to this site:http://oxygenbleach.homestead.com/files/Seems like a pretty good description of bleaches, but I can't vouch
for accuracy.
Brian
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4) From: R Nepsund
The reason I was throwing my poly filters after a week was that it got
harder to get fluids through and didn't look that good.  I think that it
actually has to be disolving the coffee fines.
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5) From: Dean De Crisce
Absolutely! Although I choked in organic and inorganic chemistry...I
certainly remember that hydrogen peroxide is different from sodum
hypochloride.
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6) From: Dave Huddle
Dean ,
I reckon you might mean " hydrogen peroxide is different from sodium
hypochlorite" (i.e - the sodium salt of hypochlorous acid)  - not
hypochloride.  (Even some chemists use the incorrect  ...ide ending.)
Dave (who has been employed by the world's largest chemical infomation
database for 38 years, 2 months, 5 days.)
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7) From: Dean De Crisce
I told you I choked in that...thank God i dont have to master that stuff in
my everyday work!!!!
Not countin the days or anything are you?! lol
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8) From: Seth Grandeau
so is oxyclean a good option for coffee equipment? :)
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9) From: Barry Luterman
I used to use it when I had my cloth filter for my vacuum pot with no
problems. After I switched to a cory rod I no longer used it but it has been
very valuable for cleaning my coffee spills off the rug.
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10) From: Captain CowPie
I replied to the old thread, so ignore that. This one answers my  
question and brings back the headaches I had in high school chemistry ;)
Vince
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11) From: Mike Koenig
I think the difference between plain Sodium Percarbonate and OxyClean
is that OxyClean contains some detergents to help loosen "dirt" (or
coffee particles).
The plan sodium percarbonate has the advantage of not needing too much
rinsing,  it forms hydrogen peroxide (which fairly rapidly degrades to
Oxygen and water),  and sodium carbonate, which is probably in your
water anyway.  It also works nicely as a sanitizer.
--mike
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12) From: Brian Kamnetz
I wonder if soaking poly filters in a solution of Joe Glo wouldn't
work as well as anything else. Joe Glo sure seems able to dissolve
coffee residues, and it is apparently safe for items used in food
prep. I am guessing the big question would be how well Joe Glo rinses
out of the poly. Any ideas, or, better yet, has anyone ever tried it?
Brian
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13) From: R Nepsund
Joe Glow ingredients:
SODIUM PERCARBONATE
SODIUM CARBONATE, Anhydrous
SODIUM METASILICATE, Anhydrous
SODIUM TRIPOLY PHOSPHATE
Ethylenediamine Tetra-acetic acid, Sodium salt
Non-Ionic Wetting Agent
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14) From: Andy Thomas
I use Oxyclean from time to time for glass coffee brewers -- Chemex and Sil=
ex vac -- and for a stainless thermos, when they get coffee-stained. It doe=
sn't take much -- 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon, fill with very hot water and soak fo=
r about 15 minutes. It works great and it rinses out easily and (I hope) co=
mpletely. In the winery where I work we use a product that I believe is sim=
ilar, called Peroxycarb(TM), for cleaning and sanitizing tanks, hoses, etc.=
 It is sodium carbonate penta-peroxyhydrate (NaCO3 . 5H2O2). We have to be =
very careful not to get the dust from this stuff in our eyes. I'm told it c=
an cause blindness with only a short exposure. I don't know whether that ap=
plies to Oxyclean or not.
From: Seth Grandeau 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 1:26:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] OxiClean, was Aeropress with a goldfilter
so is oxyclean a good option for coffee equipment? :)
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15) From: Brian Kamnetz
Very interesting!
Speaking of Joe Glo, after I use it, when I am trying to rinse it off,
there is something very slimy-feeling on the surfaces. I've always
kind of wondered whether it is completely rinsing off. Anyone have any
insights in this area?
Thanks,
Brian
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16) From: Mike Koenig
Sodium or potassium carbonate in water will give you that slimy
feeling at pretty low concentrations.  (put your hand in a solution of
washing soda, and you'll see what I mean).
Those of us that are stuck with water softeners get this every day
when we shower!
If you are getting any of the JoeGlo on your hands, it's probably more
a case of residue on your skin than on the surfaces you are trying to
rinse.
--mike
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17) From: raymanowen
No correction, but if you buy online, thankfully, Billy Mays might go the
Hell away. -ro
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18) From: Steve Barber
Why does Billy feel the need to SHOUT!!!!
Steve
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19) From: Bob Glasscock
Hey Steve,
I read an interview with Billy Mays in which he says that is his natural
voice. I used to have a customer who had spent his entire life working in a
sawmill - same kind of voice. BTW your polyfelt is in the mail.
Bob Glasscock
Why does Billy feel the need to SHOUT!!!!
Steve
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20) From: Steve Barber
THANKS BOB!!! oops I mean Thanks Bob.
Steve
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