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Topic: la pavoni leak (4 msgs / 147 lines)
1) From: Benjamin VerHage
I purchased a used LaPavoni Pro off eBay a couple months back and just got around to trying it out. It looks a bit neglected...dirty, lots of gunk in the group (so much so that the portafilter barely fits). Other than that, with a good scrubbing it should look like new. Anywho, I decided to descale it first, so I added a hot water/dezcal miz and fired it up. Once it was up to pressure I lifted the lever and upon pulling down, nothing came out. I could only get water/steam to flow by holding the lever in the up position. I also noticed a puddle forming under the machine.
After cooling, I pulled off the bottom cover and noticed everything was covered it water (droplets on everything). There was also a bit of rust forming so it's probably been leaking for a while. Does anyone know what could be leaking underneath? I disassembled the group with the intention of thoroughly cleaning out the gunk as well as replacing all the seals. Does anyone have a suggestion on where to buy such a kit?
Ben
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2) From: Derek Bradford
Hi Ben,
You should read this site:http://pavoni.varnelis.net/ (The Lair of the
Chrome Peacock).
Off the top of my head...  The water from the group as you described is
normal operation.  Water only comes out of the group when the handle is
raised.  The boiler forces water up through a tube into the group, which you
then force through the coffee by pulling the lever back down.
The puddle under the machine and inside is a problem, but one that can
probably be fixed with new gaskets.  Hopefully there's no damage to any of
the electronics (although there aren't many in this machine), and the rust
isn't anything more than surface rust that you can clean up.
Cheers,
--Derek
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Benjamin VerHage 

3) From: Benjamin VerHage
It looks like there are 3 screws attaching the heating element to the boiler. The leak looks like its coming from one of the screws. The screw is tight so it must be the gasket. Thanks for that link! I was using his pictorial from coffeegeek already and didn't know he had a page.
From: Derek Bradford 
To: homeroast
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:00:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] la pavoni leak
Hi Ben,
You should read this site:http://pavoni.varnelis.net/ (The Lair of the
Chrome Peacock).
Off the top of my head...  The water from the group as you described is
normal operation.  Water only comes out of the group when the handle is
raised.  The boiler forces water up through a tube into the group, which you
then force through the coffee by pulling the lever back down.
The puddle under the machine and inside is a problem, but one that can
probably be fixed with new gaskets.  Hopefully there's no damage to any of
the electronics (although there aren't many in this machine), and the rust
isn't anything more than surface rust that you can clean up.
Cheers,
--Derek
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Benjamin VerHage 

4) From: Kris Bhatti
Make a call to the Thomas Cara company and Christopher can talk you through any problem you have with your Pavoni.  I bought a used Europiccola last year and Christopher was very helpful. 
Thomas E. Cara Ltd. Christopher Cara
517 Pacific Avenue 
San Francisco, CA 94133
(415) 781-0383
From: Benjamin VerHage 
To: homeroast
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:23:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] la pavoni leak
It looks like there are 3 screws attaching the heating element to the boiler. The leak looks like its coming from one of the screws. The screw is tight so it must be the gasket. Thanks for that link! I was using his pictorial from coffeegeek already and didn't know he had a page.
From: Derek Bradford 
To: homeroast
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 3:00:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] la pavoni leak
Hi Ben,
You should read this site:http://pavoni.varnelis.net/ (The Lair of the
Chrome Peacock).
Off the top of my head...  The water from the group as you described is
normal operation.  Water only comes out of the group when the handle is
raised.  The boiler forces water up through a tube into the group, which you
then force through the coffee by pulling the lever back down.
The puddle under the machine and inside is a problem, but one that can
probably be fixed with new gaskets.  Hopefully there's no damage to any of
the electronics (although there aren't many in this machine), and the rust
isn't anything more than surface rust that you can clean up.
Cheers,
--Derek
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Benjamin VerHage 


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