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Topic: New York City coffee houses? (9 msgs / 229 lines)
1) From: John Letoto
Can anyone recommend any solid coffee houses -- or enjoyable coffee
venues -- to hit up while taking in NYC during a day trip tomorrow?
I've seen a few blog posts detailing such locales, but I'd love to
hear what the list has to say, especially if there's some recent
experience to convey.  Thanks!
-toto
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2) From: Andy Thomas
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Subject: [Homeroast] New York City coffee houses?
Can anyone recommend any solid coffee houses -- ... in NYC ....
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3) From: Demian Ebert
Ninth street in the village or Gimme Coffee were good when we were
there a couple years ago. Ninth st was just included I a NY Times
artilcle a month back.
Demian
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4) From: Mike Koenig
John,
Not sure if I'm too late for this, but definitely check out Cafe
Grumpy on 20th St between 7th and 8th Ave.
Sicaffe is also good,  on the Upper East Side on Lexington, near 70th St.
--mike
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5) From: Joseph Robertson
John,
Really a good idea to check this list. Coffee business is a very fluid "no
pun intended", form of enjoyment and business. The quality of product/cup
delivered to the customer varies by the influence of several factors. Like
who is working the 'spro machine or brewing the cup of the day, or what kind
of roast is up today, etc, etc.
Last year about this time I was in New York city but it was a hyper drive
kind of trip. Only had time for corner shop coffee, "not *$s. My AP and Zass
came in very handy. Sorry I don't have any up to date tips for the good
black gold.
JoeR
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6) From: Angelo
Since I live on the upper east side, I cannot comment on the places 
in lower manhattan. If I want "outside" coffee, I go to Sicaffe on 
Lexington Ave. & 70th St..
Angelo
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7) From: John Letoto
Thanks to all who responded; the responses were/are greatly
appreciated.  I and a couple of friends managed to hit up five
separate spots on Saturday: Ninth Street Espresso; Cafe Grumpy; Jack's
Stir Brew; Joe: The Art of Coffee; and Gimme! Coffee.  I enjoyed all
of them a great, but each for differing reasons, and some more than
others.
At Ninth Street Espresso, for example, I had my first-ever sip of
Stumptown's Hairbender...wow, wow, wow!  I told the friends I was with
-- with whom I was staying in Pennsylvania and who were gracious
enough to indulge me and take me out to the city to do this little
jaunt -- that having good espresso is like walking up to the edge of a
cliff to view some grand vista...one step too far, and the experience
can be ruined, but staying right at the edge without going over is
exhilarating.  I feel grateful and confident in asserting that Ninth
Street's baristas do the Hairbender justice.
-toto
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8) From: Michael I
Glad you liked 9th St.  Assuming you went to the original (Lower East Side,
on 9th St.), that was my local for many years before moving to the coffee
wasteland that is Boston.  They know how to pull a shot.  Grumpy is also
great, but, as you noted, for different reasons.  Those two are my personal
"can't miss" places in the City.
You chose a nice selection of shops that are located relatively close to one
another.  A good espresso & coffee tour, and it sounds like you enjoyed it.
I'm sitting in a small independent shop in Lake Placid right now, so I can
use the wi-fi and get some work done.  The coffee doesn't quite compare to
what you can get downstate, but it's better than being in the Starbucks
across the street.
-AdkMike

9) From: John Letoto
We didn't quite make it to the original Ninth Street location, but I
definitely would have liked to hit them up at that spot, too...that
Hairbender shot is still haunting me in the best way possible.
Perhaps on my next trip over.
I found Grumpy to be tiny but hoppin'.  It was there that I had my
first in-person exposure to the Clover.  Being that this little
machine, expensive and controversial as it is, was right in front of
me, I couldn't resist one bit.  The five dollar cup of Ethiopia Aricha
was as eye-opening as I could have hoped for.  Berries, crystal
clarity, subtle complexity and smooth finish were all there, no doubt
about it.  What I find intriguing at this point is the thought that
while that was an outstanding cup, I'm not certain the Clover is
"worth it."  In other words, given the coffees we're exposed to on a
regular basis (the mug holds the contents of a press from a
roast of Guatemala Oriente DP sitting on a week's rest), is the price
of that cup something I can see being justified?  That's a topic
that's been discussed at length already, so I won't even bother to get
into it here.  To be fair, that Aricha was the most expensive cup of
Clover-brewed coffee that Grumpy offered, so that sort of pricing
shouldn't be considered across-the-board.
At the end of it all, if someone were to ask me if that cup, on that
particular day and with those particular circumstances, was worth the
green I tossed over, even with hindsight and a couple days'
reflection, my immediate response would be this: "I would've paid ten
bucks for it.  Still would."
-toto
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