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Topic: COE @ Target - roast description on a different (3 msgs / 102 lines)
1) From: Sam49
I recently bought a bag of Haitian Bleu Dark Roast at a Target in 
Columbia, MD.  It had a Best By July 24 2009 stamp on it.  The dot for 
roast was halfway across the bar between light and dark.  This was in a 
bag - just under $7 for 12oz, not a tin although they had some of those 
premium coffees in tins for sale.
What follows is a somewhat detailed warning based on this limited 
experience - halfway across that bar indicates a very darkly roasted, if 
not over-roasted coffee.
I just joined this list today so no one has any background info by which 
to judge if I know anything about coffee.
My GF and I think it is really very undrinkable and agree that it tastes 
over-roasted.  We've made two presses with it and don't want to drink 
any more - and I may even return it. We probably aren't as knowledgeable 
as some on this list but mostly buy coffee from a local roaster in 
Baltimore.  We experiment with lots of different coffees from different 
countries, roasters, etc, drinking almost exclusively single source 
beans.  In the last few years, we rarely buy beans or coffee to drink 
that are extremely dark roasts but primarily buy coffees roasted in the 
City +, Full City, Vienna range on the Sweet Maria's pictorial guide.  
(I've read quite a bit of the info on the website recently.)
But to my tastes this coffee was roasted far beyond what we usually get 
and beyond the usual Starbucks roast, beyond the usual French roast and 
had a bitter over roasted aspect to it.  Leah agreed and she still likes 
Starbucks somewhat more than I do.
In the past I had a period where I was a big Starbucks and French Roast 
fan.  But as I learned more about the tastes of different single origin 
coffees - interestingly beginning at a Starbucks that was across the 
street from where I worked in DC back in the mid 90's, I drifted down to 
slightly less roasted coffees.  So, it isn't like I've never had dark 
roasts or never buy them anymore.
I may not like a coffee I buy and decide I'll be unlikely to buy that 
coffee again, but I'll virtually always grind,  brew and drink the bag - 
sometimes changing my mind about the coffee I'd initially not liked much 
after several days builds an appreciation of its characteristics. 
The only other time I've found a coffee I've bought to undrinkable in 
the last 6+ years is when I found the last bag of Costa Rican among the 
beans from a different local roaster stuck in the back of its display at 
a local grocery store and they were stale - I knew that when I opened 
the bag.  They'd probably gotten stuck in the back and missed in a 
product check. 
These Target Haitian beans don't smell or taste stale.
Just my $.02 on this.
I'll try to write a short intro post on why  I've joined this list  in 
the next day or two, beyond just stating that I am thinking about 
starting to home roast.  I have learned quite a bit from reading the 
information on this site.  It really is a wonderful source and I have 
much more to learn.
Sam
Columbia, MD
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2) From: Jim Gundlach
Sam,
       Welcome to the list.   Just one thought on those coffees you  
don't like at first but in a few days you change your mind.  If you  
are getting really fresh roasted from your local roaster you may well  
be seeing the effect of resting on taste.  Most coffees need a three  
day or so rest before the flavors start to come out.
        pecan jim
On Jan 13, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sam49 wrote:
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3) From: Jon Segal
I've been roasting for 6 months.  If you love coffee, definitely start
roasting.  It's the best coffee.  There are only a few places in the Chicago
area that I think I can get coffee as good as what I brew.
It's fun and easy.
Good luck,  Jon
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