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Topic: lapavoni back on its feet (10 msgs / 247 lines)
1) From: Benjamin VerHage
I posted a while back that I got a used LaPavoni Pro off eBay as my first f=
oray into espresso. I really wanted to try out my beans as SO espresso as I=
 kept reading all of Tom's great descriptions. In my first use of the machi=
ne (to descale it) I had a big leak underneath the unit. I determined it to=
 be the heating element gasket so I took that apart. Basically, the unit wa=
s never descaled and apparently they used runoff from a nuclear power plant=
 as their water supply. The coil had 1/8" scale buildup as well as the whol=
e inside of the tank. It seriously looked like an asbestos insulation or so=
mething. The cause of the leak was the scale eating away at the chrome coat=
ing, separating the chrome from the brass. The chrome stuck to the o-ring=
 and the water seeped in between. When I took the old seal off there was ch=
rome stuck to it in multiple places.
Seeing that I disassembled every part that could come apart on the unit. Th=
e eBay listing said the seals had just been replaced but apparently they us=
ed axle grease in their rebuild. Seriously, it was black, nasty stuff. Ever=
y individual part was cleaned throroughly. I ordered a new seal kit and rep=
laced all the seals as well. Descaling took a while (went through about 3 b=
oxes of Dezcal along with some CLR which really did the trick).
Got it all reassembled last night and fired it up. No leak from below and e=
verything worked so smoothly. I ran a tank of water through just to do a fi=
nal cleaning. Pressure stat works well and everything seems to be in fine w=
orking order. I just need to do a good cleaning of the exterior and she'll =
be good to go. The ironic part is the machine is working again, but the mot=
or just blew in my Behmor so I don't have any beans to use. New motor is ar=
riving today (shout out to the guys at Behmor) so hopefully this weekend ev=
erything will be back on track.
The whole process was kind of a pain and I probably had the right to get a =
refund. But after it was all done, I kind of enjoyed it and now I have a go=
od understanding of how the machine works. It feels more like "mine" now. I=
'll keep you all updated once I actually pull some shots...it will be my fi=
rst attempt at espresso.
Ben
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2) From: Brian Kamnetz
Thanks for sharing your story, Ben. I envy you that experience. I am
looking forward to hearing how things go when you start pulling shots.
Brian
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3) From: Tom Ulmer
The piston lubricant does take on an ugly look after a bit of use. I have a
great affinity for my levered machine. I hope your experiences foster the
same affection.

4) From: Les
Ben,
Just a word of warning!  The La Pavoni has the worst "coffee sneeze"
of any lever machine I have used.  After the shot, make sure you turn
the Portafilter slowly as you go to remove it.  Once you hear a bit of
pressure being released stop and let it release the pressure, or you
will have grounds all over the place!  Welcome to lever mania!
Les
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Elektra Micro Casa Lever
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5) From: Joseph Robertson
Les,
This question is directed to you because I know how much experience
you have with lever machines.
I am considering using a commercial two group lever machine in a
commercial setting someday. I have been reading up on web groups who
are deep lever geeks and I have learned or heard that it is possible
to keep up with pushbutton spro machines when a barista is experienced
and dialed in and "one" with the lever system. Do you believe this to
be true?
Thanks Les,
Joe
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6) From: jeff michel
Nice set of levers you have there Les!  ;)
Jef
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7) From: Les
Joe,
The Commercial levers are awesome.  I saw a two group in action (don't
remember the brand) on the coast in N. California a few years ago.
The barista had no problem keeping up with orders it was a busy shop.
A 25 second pull is the same length of time no matter what is driving
the water.
By the way, it was one of the best double shots I have had from a
commercial operation.
Les
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8) From: Les
Thanks Jeff.  I am enjoying both of them.
Les
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9) From: Joseph Robertson
Les,
Thanks for getting back.
Before I make a leap into leverdom I will schedule a short or whatever
it takes course to learn the in's and out's of JediLever work.
I understand by all that have used them that this is a true art form.
Especially doing the same thing time and time again.
Joe
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10) From: Bill
Ben,
congrats on the rebuild!  Thanks for the update.  Keep us posted on the
results...
bill
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