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Topic: Silvia Help needed (8 msgs / 195 lines)
1) From: Alex Fitch
I am in need of advise from any Silvia users.
I bought a Silvia for my dad a year ago when his SB machine died. He  
is an espresso snob and I thought it would be good for him. Well after  
almost a year he gave up on it and was going to sell it so he shipped  
it to me. I really want to prove the silvia worth all the reviews. I  
got it yesterday. He noted the following problems with its use.
1. Very fast shots (he purchased a new burr grinder)
2. No Crema (I sent him a batch of SM Espresso monkey) that helped a  
little.
3. Flat flavor (I am sure related to 1)
I have only pulled 3 shot but have noticed all three as being true.  
Here is what I have tried.
1 hour pre heat and temp surfing per Toms instruction on the Silvia
fine grind in my 8 month old Rocky (18 and 12, Burrs touch around 9)
Tamp hard (but he did not send my the supplied tamper so I had to use  
a 56 mm on ( I think this my be part of my problem)
	I plan to order a Thor later today.
Results a very fast 2 oz shot 15 seconds or so, Flat. little to no  
Crema.
I will take any advise.
Thank up.
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Alex Fitch
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2) From: Bill Laine
I know this is heresy but I suggest you might get better results if you
screw your grinder down a little tighter and ignore the burr clatter. I had
the same troubles as you are describing and set the grind closer out of
desperation. Instant improvement.  It has been six months and there is no
appearant change in the grind quality.
Bill
New Orleans
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3) From: Dick Cook
I used a Silvia for about 8 years (up to about a year ago) and had great 
success.  If the coffee your using is more than 2 weeks old, that's your 
starting point.  Get freshly roasted, properly rested (at least 24 hours 
rest, 72 is better, usually) coffee.  What does your puck look like after 
pulling the shot (soggy,dry, wet) not that that is a complete tell, but it 
can be a place to start. If it's soggy or soupy you are either too fine or 
the Silvia relief valve is malfunctioning( not usually the problem) but you 
can go more course from there.  If the puck is firm and dry, that's good but 
you can try one notch finer and observe your results.
Your tamper isn't much of a problem.....other forums have proven a much 
smaller tamper than yours have had good results. If your ordering one get 
the right one, but that's not your problem.
Your equipment(Silvia/Rocky) is a good set up and should deliver really good 
results.  Good coffee is crucial.
Keep us posted
H-D Rider

4) From: miKe mcKoffee
Start here: http://www.home-barista.com/silvia-flash-review.htmlThere are numerous Silvia user threads on Home-Barista forum.">http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-guide.htmlAnd here:http://www.home-barista.com/silvia-flash-review.htmlThere are numerous Silvia user threads on Home-Barista forum.
Having previously owned a Silvia for 4 years I can safely say your problems
are on the handle side of the portafilter.
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5) From: Ben Lowery
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If your burrs are touching at 9, you might be victim to an especially
loose upper burr carrier. Pull the top off so you can get at the burr
carrier and try to wiggle it. If it moves, unscrew it, wrap the
threads in a couple wraps of teflon tape, and screw it back in. That
should alleviate any looseness in the threads, which leads to some of
that burr touching around 9ish. There's a fair bit of slop in the
threading, and the tape helps to remove it.
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6) From: Alex Fitch
Mike,
Thanks for the links. I know that the handle side is where the short  
comming lies. I just wanted make sure there were no technical issues  
adding to them. That posibility eliminated for the time being is can  
focus my attentions.
Thank you again,
I hope hope up hold the reputation Ms. Silvia and redeem her in my  
fathers eyes.
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7) From: Sandy Andina
And how old are the beans? How were they roasted? Paradoxically, I've  
found the darker the roast, the drier the bean, the "airier" the grind  
even when very fine and well-tamped--and with mostly carbon and  
surface oils to work with, put them all together and you get fast  
shots and pale to no crema.  Go for a FC or even C+ roast, use beans  
from the sweet spot (3-9 days) and see what you get.
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8) From: Angelo
There were a batch of Rocky's that had a bad upper carrier, i.e. 
sloppiness in the threads. I got mine replaced under warrantee. You 
might want to try that...
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