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Topic: Maesto Plus motor (13 msgs / 383 lines)
1) From: Jeff Kilpatrick
Hello all-
The motor in my Solis Maestro Plus burned out last night, leaving me in a
very sad state.  I'd love to take this opportunity to get something better,
but that's not in the cards for a few months.  Does anybody have a line on
replacement motors for this thing?  I'm trying to minimize cost, so I'd
prefer not send it for professional repair when I can do it myself.
Thanks!
-jeff
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2) From: Seth Grandeau
Try contacting Solis/Baratza support.  I found them to be very helpful and
replacement parts (burrs, for example) to be very reasonably priced.
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3) From: Bill S.
Jeff,
The motor is such a big part of this grinder that replacement (at retail
prices) may not be economical. Are you sure its burned out?  Could it be
clogged with coffee or could the thermal overload protector( if any) have
failed?
A lot of people have moved up from a Baratza ( I still use my Maestro for
French Press) that there should be some used models that you could pick up,
perhaps from this site..
Bill S.
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4) From: Jeff Kilpatrick
Seth & Bill,
To my great relief, things weren't as bad as I had expected.  When I took
the grinder apart after it failed mid-grind, a wire had just come loose.
 However, I did take a close look at a lot of stuff on the inside and it
seems pretty serviceable.  When a motor like this burns out, it's typically
the winds or the bushings.  Should that ever happen, I'll replace the
bushings if they're bad or the whole thing otherwise.  I have friends who
are into robotics, so replacing this very generic looking motor shouldn't be
a big problem.
I can't wait until I can afford a more reasonable grinder.  Unfortunately,
it'll be a while on grad student pay.
Thanks for your thoughts!
-jeff
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5) From: raymanowen
Jeff, I got a Solis Maestro from a thrift store for $0.99- it was worth
every penny. Identical motor to SM Plus, which I later bought. I thought the
comical burrs were neat.
All the Maestro/ Maestro Plus burrs that I bought were execrable- and the
newer ones I bought, the worse they got.
The motor had a blown Thermal Fuse. (Tied against the field windings) I
"repaired" the fuse, and the motor ran fine- it was just that all the
plastic mounting ears on the gearbox were broken off.
Your motor is actually fine.
You couldn't possibly have worn out the brushes, although the motor is not
as robust as an electric drill motor. It doesn't get the abuse, either.
You >Will< get a better grinder, so juggle your budget now. Maybe they would
sell a new gear motor for $99.
Then what would you have?
An easy fix, but still, the same grinder I disposed of- almost brand new.
"Free to Good Home." I wouldn't use it  on the excellent Kona beans miKe
sent.
Or just fix the thermal fuse. Stick $ in your Grinder Fund. Baratza is about
ready to market a new grinder. They'll probably try to whip that on you-
Sure looks shiny, but it's the same stöcken Scheiße grinder in different
covering.
Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Buick, Cadillac;
Ford, Thud, Mercury, Edsel, Lincoln;
Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, Chrysler, Imperial;
Studebaker, Studebaker, Studebaker Hawk, Avanti;
Hudson, Hudson Hornet, Hudson;
Packard, Packard...
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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6) From: Jeff Kilpatrick
For those of you on the edge of your seats (and I'm sure there were several
-- I know I'd care about my grinder if I were in your shoes!) my Maestro
Plus performed as well as it ever does this morning.  I tried a blend passed
by a friend from a roaster in Spring, TX.  It was quite nice.
Stick $ in your Grinder Fund. Baratza is about
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ready to market a new grinder. They'll probably try to whip that on you-
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Sure looks shiny, but it's the same stöcken Scheiße grinder in different
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Money's definitely going in the grinder fund (I'm actually skipping a spring
break trip to climb in mexico to save up... i'm serious about this), though
I hope to do a little better than the Vario.  A friend of mine is reviewing
a pre-production model and seems less than impressed.  The interface is
pretty neat, but the rest seems to be, well, ein echter Scheißteil.
Thanks again for all the input!
-jeff
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7) From: Bill S.
Jeff,
A happy ending.. enjoy some coffee!
Bill S.
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8) From: jeff michel
Yeah, I have a deposit on that Vario...
I was hoping for a better review. They are a good company and the  =
grinder is made in conjunction with a fantastic grinder company,  =
Mahlkönig
who makes the K30 (one of the stellar grinders). To make a looong  =
story short, there was some doubt that the burrs
could do a GREAT job and in the end they appear to have fallen a bit  =
short on consistent particle mass which is important
in espresso production. It was however to its credit, being tested  =
against a Mazzer Robur. One of the finest grinders (and HUGE  & $$)
out there and at a price point that almost anyone could afford. So for  =
me anyway it is a disappointment since I was hoping for
a miracle in the form of reasonably priced grinder that I didn't need  =
a doser on. However, this was a pre-production model so
there is still hope... For other forms of coffee it may present a fine  =
grind as well.
For anyone wanting to see the review, here it is:http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-grinders/baratza-vario-grinder-first-l=ook-t9604.html
Jef
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9) From: Michael Dhabolt
Jef,
There is another short article about the Vario on CoffeeGeek that
raved about it.  Again it was based on a pre-production machine, so
caveats abounded concerning waiting for a production run to give it
the final acid test.
I'm waiting to make my own appraisal.  And comparing to a Robur is
really a California apple to a Washington apple kind of comparison
(not exactly cardboard to apples but almost).  Not to offend any
orchardists, but .... Oh Well ;~)
Mike (just plain)
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10) From: raymanowen
"...the grinder is made in conjunction with a fantastic grinder company,
Mahlkönig"
That's the one! "Comes with everything you see here, batteries not
included" odd- the basic mechanism is unchanged, and never had anything to
do with Mahlkönig before. It is so completely unlike anything Mahlkönig=
 ever
built...
But I know nothing. Hope you're happy with the Baratza, their President is a
Prince!
Cheers, Mabuhay und guten Morgen -RayO, aka Opa!
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11) From: jeff michel
Er, are we talking about Baratza or some other grinder?
The Vario has ceramic flat burrs instead of steel conicals for one  =
major difference (from other Baratza grinders).
If there is another grinder just like this one under another name I  =
would like to see a link to it.
Jef
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12) From: David Morrow
Jeff,
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I think all Ray was referring to (a risky assumption on this list) is that
Mahlkonig makes the ceramic burrs for the Baratza Vario.
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13) From: jeff michel
Somewhere in my future lies the perfect grinder.  =D
Maybe a 3 phase Robar!
I remember some listing previously that there was an identical model  =
to the Vario
that had been on the market for some time. I am still curious to see  =
if a link will
materialize...  Just curious.
Mmmm, drinking organic oolong tea right now.
Yummy!
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