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Topic: Need help. May have ruined a roast (21 msgs / 403 lines)
1) From: Seth Grandeau
I was roasting in the Behmor, 1/2 lb of Hawaiian beans, P5.  At the 15:00
mark, about when I normally enter first crack, I reached for the light
button to check on where it was and accidentally hit cool.  As many of you
know, once you hit cool, you cannot restart the roast until the chamber
cools down to a certain point.  I opened the door and heard 1st crack
starting, so I closed the door and let it go.  I may have just made it to a
city roast, but I've probably fallen short.  Should I try to re-roast it?
Any advice appreciated.
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2) From: Dave
Brew a cup. If it's good leave it alone. If it isn't, re-roasting won't make
it worse, and will probably improve it.
Dave
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It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
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3) From: John Mac
Been there, done that one before. Like Dave said, grind up enough to do a
small cupping. If it tastes bad, your decision is made for you, pop it back
into the B16 for another go round. When I did that same mistake before, I
used P1 and kept an eye on it more than usual and relied on looks for when I
felt it was roasted enough. I didn't get the exact roast level I was looking
for but I also saved the beans from a trip to the compost pile. Go for it!
Cheers,
John in Nor Cal
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4) From: Joseph Robertson
I have heard of re-roasting. Any re-roasting masters here. Never tried
it myself. Sounds like an emerging science/technique for homeroasters.
Sure could save some once thought to be, failed runs.
Joe
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5) From:
I have reroasted beans that went too light. On P1 with my finger on cool. As soon as it got to the desired level I stopped it...went just fine.
If the city is unacceptable to you...you can try the reroast.
Dean De Crisce
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6) From: jeff michel
I am certainly not a master at it but I re-roasted some too light  
Auriferous at P5 A (if my failing memory still serves me) and it  
salvaged quite well.
I don't know about something like a Kona though. Also am using for  
expresso so they are done perhaps a bit darker but my attitude is
why not try it if you don't like the first results.
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7) From: Seth Grandeau
I tried it this morning.  the grind was really the color of ground
cinnamon.  this is my first cinnamon roast and (at least for this bean) I do
not like it.  It has a sour aftertaste that lingers in the mouth.  I think
I'll pop it back in the Behmor and see what I end up with.  Thanks for all
the advice!
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8) From: james McDougal
Seth,
I had a similar problem just yesterday. I was trying to do a melange of Dale
Yirga Alem C+/FC+ but way undershot, because I finally got the P2 drop to
hit right at 1C and after a couple of minutes worried about overroasting and
stopped.  The second half of the roast I got a little darker (maybe C+) but
overall the results would have been unstatisfactory. I put both 8 oz batches
back in the Behmor on P1 and reroasted for 9 minutes. Turned out very good.
Good Luck with yours!
Mac
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9) From: Seth Grandeau
I finally had time to re-roast my under-roasted Hawaiian.  I took it
somewhere between FC+ and Vienna.  It's much better than before and the
sourness is gone.  Not as good as I was hoping for, originally, but
certainly not ruined.  I've done 86 roasts in the Behmor and this is only
the second one I've been disappointed in (the other time I was trying to
roast a full lb of beans and ran out of time before 1st crack completed).
My thanks to the group for the advice.
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10) From: raymanowen
" P5 [button]. 15:00 mark...reached for the light button to check on where
it was...hit
cool [button]... once you hit
cool [button], you cannot restart the roast until the chamber cools...
Any advice appreciated.
The next model, the Behmor+, will have one more button that will illuminate,
and belay the execution of the previous action commanded: 
Based on the likelihood that the presence of this button will salvage a CoE
roast, its cost will be $100- the cost of the ruined roast plus the bottle
of pills.
You mentioned you "reached for the light button to check on where it was,"
thinking maybe the light button and the cool button had swapped positions.
The Behmor A+ , with a tethered Android, will have voice recognition.
Just tell it how you want the coffee to taste.
Cuppa will select the appropriate beans and roast them for you, or return
the message:
"I'm sorry, but your current stash is unlikely to yield the results you
desire. If you would like to make a different choice, please push button
#1..."
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Got Grinder?
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11) From: Seth Grandeau
Ray,
I reached for the light button to check on the progress of my roast.  My
apologies for the confusing choice of words.  :)
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12) From: Brian Kamnetz
Seth,
I don't know whether you can do this on your roaster, but sometimes,
if a device has a button I do not want to hit by mistake, I tape a
small paper tab so that the paper tab hangs over that button. The
button (or other control) is still readily available, but I do not hit
it (as often) by accident.
Brian
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13) From: miKe mcKoffee
How 'bout accidentally hitting the "bean door" dumping beans from the drum
instead of "stirring motor" to turn off the stir on the touch screen with 8#
greens in the drum tanning stage and 8# in the tray roasted and cooled.
Results unroasted beans mixed in with finished roast, 16# wasted. IIRC done
it twice in 13 months. First time spent 5 or 10 minutes picking out way
un-roasted beans before giving up, 2nd time knew better and just immediately
to the trash. Best as I recall it's been well over 6 months since made that
oops! 
miKe
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14) From: Les
That sounds like a bummer MIke!
Les
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15) From: John Letoto
Wow...sorry, miKe, that brings a frown to my face...I'm guessing from the
lack of specificity that none of those batches was something unique like a
Gesha or a CoE...
...right?
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16) From: miKe mcKoffee
The 2nd time it happened it was Idido Misty Valley in the cooling tray!
Could be why I learned my lesson and it's never happened again... 
miKe
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17) From: Scott Miller
Yea, color me experienced with this goof up, too!
One time only so far. Lucky for me it was greens from the hopper into
a drum full of roasted coffee. I immediately dumped to the cooling
tray and did a quick sort.
cheers,
Scott
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18) From: John Letoto
Oh, the pain!!!  I would have pouted and stomped around, I think.
A batch of that, roasted to Full City and rested about five days, was
pressed and divvied up around the office this morning.  Tasted of
chocolate-covered cherries and strawberries, it did...along with just the
tiniest hint of woody smokiness...strange, but still very delicious.
-toto
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19) From: R Nepsund
 If the different beans are different enough I think vibrating them
might make the lighter ones come to the top.
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20) From: dennis true
I remember I was just starting out using the HG/DB doing 1# of harrar  
back in the summer of 06
I accidently knocked the dog bowl off the table and on to my lap just  
as the roast was finished and the bowl landed on my legs (I was  
wearing shorts) I shot up and the whole roast went every where the  
blisters were horrible and I still have scars just above my knees from  
it... hasn't happened since
so yes I lost that roast and kept a reminder for life hasn't happened  
since
Dennis
HG/DB roasting in GTMO
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21) From: Sheila
I once forgot about the potholder and grabbed onto the bowl with my BARE 
HANDS to dump the finished roast. Let's just say I'll never do that 
again....
Sheila
Dennis True wrote:
I accidently knocked the dog bowl off the table and on to my lap just as 
the roast was finished and the bowl landed on my legs (I was wearing 
shorts) I shot up and the whole roast went every where the blisters were 
horrible and I still have scars just above my knees from it... hasn't 
happened since
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