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Topic: Addiction (27 msgs / 583 lines)
1) From: James Splivens
After lurking on this edifying list for months, I don't recall a single ins=
tance of posting about caffeine addiction.  Surely it must be widespread =
among enthusiasts.  Is it worrisome for any lister?  At what point does=
 it become worrisome?
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2) From: Rich Adams

3) From: Sheila Quinn
I'd say it's only worrisome if one becomes addicted to the coffee BEER 
that's being talked about. Or maybe it's worrisome if you're so addicted 
that you buy every coffee gadget you see and get your family in debt 
because of it. Barring those extremes, I don't see it as a problem.
Sheila - sipping a cappuccino made with Ethiopian Misty Valley (I liked 
the past crop better than the more current one, though!)
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5) From: MikeG
I've no worry about caffeine addiction.   I am on day 5 of kicking a
diet coke habit to the curb because I felt all the artificial
sweetener was messing with my weight loss program and that has been
difficult.
I know plenty of folks that have to bail on caffeine consumpumption
due to heart palpitations, stomach or sleep issues.  None of those is
a problem for me and I'll continue to enjoy good coffee (lots daily)
as my one and only vice until such issues become apparent.
Mike
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:55 AM, James Splivens  wrote:
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6) From: miKe mcKoffee
Only become worrisome if stash tooooo low.... =
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7) From: Scott Miller
What, me worry? - A. E. Neuman
Actually, I need to order some coffee... like a couple pallets worth... and
that's a good piece of news!
This addiction thing sounds interesting... Do tell...
cheers,
Scott
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8) From: John Mac
Addiction is the least of our worries here ;-)
It's the OCD, hoarding, control issues that we have to deal with first and
foremost.
And I am speaking from personal experience on all of these fronts. :-D
Cheers,
John in Nor Cal
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9) From: John A C Despres
Hi, my name is John. I'm addicted to caffeine but I don't worry about it
much.
Reminds me... gotta brew some Koratie...
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10) From: Stephen Carey
Hi, all.  I can't say this with any scientific proof, but the quality 
of the coffee seems to totally change the way my body reacts to the 
caffiene in the coffee.  I know this doesn't make sense, but a few 
years ago when I was buying canned or other forms of really bad 
coffee, though I didn't know how bad until later, I would get 
headaches if I missed a day of having my full pot of coffee.
Now, with this wonderful coffee I roast, which I bought from SMs, it 
doesn't happen.  I had a 7 day trip and just couldn't drink the 
coffee which the venue provided my crew and team.  I went with water 
and fruit juice.  I would have expected to have a headache had it 
been a few years ago, but there was none.  I felt fine.  When I got 
back, roasted my coffee and had it for a wonderful morning, all was good.
I can't say that there is a different type of caffeine, and I don't 
know what happens to it when it is stale and just plain bad from the 
beginning, but I have noticed this dramatic change.  Also, sometimes 
during the days before a show, I am (no, we are) working in the 
production office and client's office for days straight - seriously, 
a couple of days straight.  Then we get in some rest before we get on 
our flights.
During this time I am drinking a lot of my coffee, as are others, 
with whom I share it, and this is totally unofficial, but two other 
people noticed this, including me.  We didn't get all antsy and 
nervous feeling from the amount of caffeine.  It could certainly be 
that the adrenaline stopped us from noticing the difference from when 
I would drink dredge coffee.  I would get antsy and so on.
Maybe the coffee is more pure somehow, I don't know.  And caffeine 
should be caffeine, but there seems to be a difference.  Can't say it 
is the new coffee for sure, but that seems to be the major change.
Just my observations.
Stephen
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11) From: Allon Stern
On Mar 2, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Stephen Carey wrote:
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Wow, now THAT'S some serious coffee. Which of Tom's offerings was that?
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Hm, could be =8-)
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12) From: miKe mcKoffee
Possibly Arabica versus Robusta.
miKe
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13) From: Zara Haimo
I'll second Stephen's comments about the lack of caffeine withdrawal 
headaches since I switched to homeroast.  I hadn't thought about this before 
he mentioned it, but I never have headaches now if I forego that warm, 
brown, caffeinated liquid offered in many hotels and restaurants.  Back in 
the days when I was drinking the sludge at work, I used to have weekend 
headaches if I didn't get any coffee on Saturday and Sunday.  These days I'm 
probably drinking a little less coffee overall, usually 2 double shots or 
2-3 cups of french press a day, but it's almost all my homeroast.  If I'm 
traveling without my own beans and don't drink any hotel coffee, it takes my 
brain a little longer to kick in mornings, but that's it, no withdrawal 
headaches.  That's 4 of us so far - Stephen, his 2 co-workers and me - 
anyone else notice the same thing?
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14) From: Barry Luterman
Absolutely In addition I can drink homeroast later in the day ,I can drink
Home roast right up to dinner time with no sleep disturbance.
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15) From: jeff michel
I think it has to do with an abundance of high quality zing. The  
higher quality caffeine polymers bond
to surface, gaps or spaces. (i.e. between teeth, under gums,  
intestines etc...) thereby giving of a minimal stream of high quality
caffeine essential to the mitigation of the effects of withdrawal.
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16) From: Liz Mack
I'm still sensitive to even homeroast coffee. If i have a late cup I'll be wide awake till the wee small hours, but i don't get a headache if i quit drinking my daily cup.  I do get a headache if i quit drinking my Dr. Pepper.
From: Barry Luterman 
To: homeroast
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 1:51:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Addiction
Absolutely In addition I can drink homeroast later in the day ,I can drink
Home roast right up to dinner time with no sleep disturbance.
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17) From: Sandy Andina
Funny you should mention it--I was NPO after midnight Thurs. for my  
Fri. hand surgery, and had my last cup of coffee (a cappa) Thurs.  
aft.  It wasn't till I sipped an espresso after dinner late on Fri.  
night that I realized I'd never developed a headache!
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18) From: Brian Kamnetz
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM, miKe mcKoffee  wrote:
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Very interesting hypothesis....
Brian
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19) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 08:55 AM 2/28/2009, you wrote:
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When you're out of fresh homeroast or other acceptable caffeine sources.
Enjoy!
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20) From: jeff michel
My addict (coffee) buddy came over on Saturday for the first time  
since I got my auto espresso set up and
quaffed about 5 doubles in a row! Rang his bell for about 60 minutes  
and was asleep 3 hours later np.
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21) From: David Martin
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Allon Stern  wrote:
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Ha ha! When I see customer testimonials in marketing literature, I
often suspect they're quoting people out of context. Now I've actually
seen it in action.
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22) From: jeff michel
I haven't had to drink any coffee at all. I just smell the beans.
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23) From: David Martin
I think for most people caffeine addiction is fairly mild, and also
most people don't have any severe problems from regularly consuming
caffeine. So for most people it's not really a big issue. Based on my
personal experience, if I cut out caffeine, I'd probably have a
headache for a couple of days, but I wouldn't have any problems
staying off of it, if I had a good reason to do so. However, it gives
me a lot of pleasure, so I don't care that I'm a little bit addicted.
I do recall someone on another mailing list (it was a health-related
list, not coffee-related) getting on a big soap box about how horrible
caffeine is for you, how incredibly addictive it is, how it had been
ruining his life, and what hell he had gone through getting off of it.
I think he was actually serious too. So I guess certain people are
unusually affected by it.
Or, maybe he was drinking that same stuff that Stephen Carey was drinking. =
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-Dave
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d among enthusiasts.  Is it worrisome for any lister?  At what point do=
es it become worrisome?
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24) From: Benjamin VerHage
I think the process/ritual can be just as, if not more addicting than coffe=
e itself. I drink it every day, but if I can't for some reason I feel no il=
l effects. I do however miss grinding and brewing and enjoying that cup of =
coffee first thing in the morning.
Ben
From: Steven Van Dyke 
To: homeroast
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 2:36:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Addiction
At 08:55 AM 2/28/2009, you wrote:
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nstance of posting about caffeine addiction.  Surely it must be widesprea=
d among enthusiasts.  Is it worrisome for any lister?  At what point do=
es it become worrisome?
When you're out of fresh homeroast or other acceptable caffeine sources.
Enjoy!
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25) From: g paris
James:
welcome to the list
Of course we all know that caffeine is addictive. The only issue with any of
us who love our home roasted
is how much we can have on any given day.
I have 2 maybe 3 cafe cremas in the morning, sometime between 4 and 7am. I
rarely drink caffeine after that time, period. I roast a lot but it goes to
friends who typically drink more then I do.
Enjoy what you like; clearly you will know it too much is too much. There
are copious articles on coffee/caffeine addiction on as many website if you
are interested.
ginnyhttp://homeroasters.org/php/news.phpThere are copious articles on coffee/caffeine addiction on as many website
if you are interested.
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26) From: Phil Palmintere

27) From: Greg Hollrigel
That's true for me.  When I open my eyes at ungodly hours, I begin to
imagine my ritual of grinding, smelling, brewing, and then tasting the
coffee.  That is enough to get my heart pumping.  If I'm travelling, I
definitely feel awkward without my normal routine, even if I have coffee
from a shop.  It's just something about the smell and taste in combination
with the rest ... :-)
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