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1) From: Les
This morning I am drinking a nice 4 day rested cup of Bali "Blue
Krishna" roasted to a City plus.  I was looking for something
different to roast last week, and just grabbed the bag with not a lot
of expectations for this coffee.  The last couple of Bali coffees have
been good, but this one is a real sleeper!  Flavor and balance just
blew me away this morning.  The coffee has just a hint of brightness,
that leads to some nice sage and sweet basil flavors with a nice milk
chocolate finish.  It has nice mouth feel with no harshness
whatsoever!   At less than 5 bucks a pound this is one awesome coffee.
 If you are looking for a nice break from the fruit bombs of Ethiopia,
or the intense syrupy Indonesian coffees, or the bright Centrals this
is a welcome break.  One of the best balanced cups I have had in a
long time.  I may have to order a 10 pounder on my next order.
Les
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2) From: Barry Luterman
That's the coffee I used in the Mazzer -Hybrid test off and it blew me away.
I just ordered 15 mote pounds of it to go with my 5 pounder..
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3) From: Les
Barry,
I am a Bali fan, however, this offering is the best ever in my
opinion.  I didn't connect that this was your test coffee.  My only
regret is I didn't fill my thermos this morning for that rare third
cup of coffee.  It should be nicely rested 6 days on Saturday for all
kinds of espresso drinks.
Les
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Anything like the amazing Bali Kintamani?
Dean De Crisce
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5) From: Barry Luterman
Better this is like the coffee I had when I visited Bali. It is the coffee
that got me into home roasting. The last time I bought a 20 pounder was for
Kenya Cora Peaberry. Now that too was a coffee.
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6) From: Les
I agree with Barry, this is the best Bali I have had.
Les
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7) From: Michael Dhabolt
Les and Barry,
would you consider this to be an appropriate substitute for the Yellow
Bourbon or the Sumatra in a three bean blend of Brazil, Sumatra and
Ethiopian?  I'm not necessarily planning on doing that blend, just
trying to categorize the bean.
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8) From: Barry Luterman
This is similar to the Yellow Bourbon, only better, and should work nicely.
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9) From: Michael Dhabolt
Thx Barry.  I better order at least a 5 #er to play with.
I'll admit that I did pull shots from the samples you sent, once I was
done with the grinder comparison and was quite impressed with your
roast. Quite tasty ;~)
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10) From: Barry Luterman
Oh no that was a mutt roast. I made up a pound and a half of odds ends and
old beans just to dial in the new grinder. If you liked that better get 10
pounds of Bali. Remember when I advised you to get a Bourbon a few years ago
this is even better.
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11) From: Nancy Crabtree
I am going in late on this subject but is this the Bali Blue Krishna you 
guys are talking about?  Better than yellow bourbon???  Oh my!!!
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12) From: Les
I agree with Barry on this one!  However it is a more complex than
Yellow Bourbon.
Les
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13) From: Michael Dhabolt
Barry,
I figure when Les and Barry talk, I should listen!
I'll admit that the Yellow Bourbon recommendation of a few years ago
did, in fact, cross my mind.  A great recommendation for a bean that
has served me well.
I am slowly shifting my roasting over to a 10 # drum roaster that I am
currently learning how to use and accomplishing some modification to.
The amount of coffee that I am roasting for 'Family and Friends (and
becoming Friends of Friends) has taken a dramatic jump in the last six
months.  I finally sat down and came to the understanding that I had
become shackled to the roaster for an average of 7 hours a week.  1/2
# yield with the Ubber Popper at 18 minutes per batch, doing back to
back roasts and not being totally comfortable with the consistency of
my 3/4 # roasts from the Behmor dictated a change.
I've noticed an unintended consequence of moving to the larger
roaster, it is that I don't do near as much experimenting with 2# and
5# bags of different beans that I don't have any fairly firm attitudes
about.  A major part of the learning curve with the big roaster is
developing the skills necessary to roasting smaller batches (goal is a
2# roast - currently doing 4# roasts) with the same level of
consistency that I am able to accomplish easily with the Ubber Popper.
The larger batch size has driven me toward 20# bag purchases.  I am
having to consciously push my buying habit toward experimenting with
more varietals.
Mike (just plain)
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14) From: Douglas Hoople
Hi All,
I'm actually curious on this one. I've discovered the Blue Krishna to be one
of the most complete and balanced coffees that I've had in a long time.
If the goal of blending is to create a complete and balanced coffee from the
consituent and supposedly incomplete and unbalanced SOs, doesn't it defeat
the purpose to work with a SO that's already complete all by itself? Doesn't
that invite conflict with the contributions of the othere?
I know that blending is a whole art unto itself, and I barely understand
roasting, let alone the multiplied complexities of blending. So you'll have
to forgive me if I'm missing something that's really obvious to experienced
blenders.
Thanks.
Doug
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15) From: Lynne
That's exactly what I feel, too - so I took the plunge and ordered 10 lbs
right away.
It's on it's way, along with (gulp - THE biggest order I've ever made - but
since I NOW have the money, I decided to give myself an early birthday gift)
three other 10lb-ers.
:D
Lynne
(who is hoping the pain in her arms subsides so she can *actually* roast
without agony...)
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16) From: John Mac
Mike (just plain),
I am wondering what type of 10# drum roaster you are starting to use.
Thanks,
John in Nor Cal
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17) From: MikeG
How are you all drinking this one - 'spresso, drip, with cream(er), black?
I'd love to jump on the bandwagon but looking for relevance to my drip
with dairy habit.
Thx
Mike
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18) From: Barry Luterman
Mike if you are roasting that much as a semi-commercial roaster. The Bali is
a natural at less than 5 per pound. It will stand alone or can replace with
improvement the Yellow Bourbon in a blend. I don't usually blend coffees.
Try it both ways.
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19) From: Barry Luterman
That's $5 per pound. On a 20 pound order its $3.77 a pound. People would be
glad to buy this at more than $15 per pound. You could do better than me at
poker.
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20) From: Michael Dhabolt
Barry,
20#'s done,  Looking forward to playing with this one.
John,
A small independent called 'Taste of Seattle'.  he has no presence on
the web that I am aware of.  If you are interested in contacting him
send me an email off-list for his particulars.
Doug,
Saved the tough one for last.  I was hoping that someone else would
jump on your question with a nice understandable concise answer.
Hopefully that answer will still come, while we are waiting for it let
me give it a shot - from my perspective.  Those last three words are
important, I have heard explanations from some folks considerably more
qualified to make definitive statements than myself that are
considerably different from mine.
I think all of us on this list have reached the level of coffee
competence required to be looking for the constituent parts of the
taste, taking it apart, if you will.  For me, Espresso is not only an
intensification of that taste but in many ways it brings a clarity to
the definition between those constituent parts.  You'll notice that I
capitalized espresso in that last sentence ;~) , that is supposed to
indicate 'done correctly' which unfortunately is not necessarily the
rule but rather the exception.  An analogy, the oil on water in a
beaker effect - a nice clean definition where it changes from one
layer to the next.  With espresso I see it as a number of layers with
different levels of definition to the change from one layer to the
next.  This analogy breaks down a bit when addressing a complex coffee
as a constituent in espresso in that it now has layers within it's
layers.
Several years ago, Tom offered what I believe was the first of the
Brazil Yellow Bourbons that were specifically identified as such.
Barry commented on this coffee earlier in this thread.  To me, it was
a revelation - a complete, rounded coffee that had all the qualities I
loved in an SO shot.  It also had an unbelievable creamy, silky
dominant mouth feel.  Should I leave it alone or possibly use it to
produce a superior experience?  Throwing a thick syrupy base (Sumatra)
underneath it did not change it's character,  adding a high toned
sparkle from a bright Ethiopian .... again did not change it's
character.  Again, for me, it was more like I was influencing the
Sumatra and the Ethiopian in directions I preferred rather than
influencing the Bourbon.  Even after the manipulation the blend
retained the Yellow Bourbon character and dominant mouth feel.  I
think we are well into that 'Whatever Floats Your Boat' territory.
Mike (just plain)
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21) From: Barry Luterman
For those interested in the Bali. This is the profile I use for it  on the
Hot Top Programmable
End of First not approaching 2nd
Note: Put beans in when Temp reaches 250 degrees (pre-heat roaster)
Segment    Time    Temperature    Fan
1                    3:00    243                    off
2                    1:30    291                   off
3                    3:00    333                   off
4                    1:30    351                   off
5                    1:30    369                   off
6                    1:30    392                    2
7                    1:30    392                    2
8                     3:00    401                   2
  For me if the Bali was the best this year. Then the coffee I was most
disappointed with was the Brazil Tree dried. I am not a big fan of DP
coffees and did not expect it to taste like a DP. I was thinking it would be
more like i think it is called an ice wine. That is when a frost catches the
grapes before they are harvested and they shrink. As a result the sugars are
concentrated in the grapes that survive the frost.Unfortunately, the Brazil
tree dried was nothing like that. It makes, for me only a fair espresso and
a poor brewed coffee.
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22) From: Douglas Hoople
Hi Mike (just plain),
Thanks (!) for offering your insight. I think what you're saying is that,
for all the methodical precision that we might think we're bringing to this,
there's still one thing... and that's what works... however it works.
It's obvious that your Yellow Bourbon-driven blend worked, somehow because
the Sumatra and the Ethiopian were compliant and cooperated. The generalist
mass blending guide summaries keep things simple enough that they don't
admit a complex mixture in which one of the three is the leader, which is
obviously what happened in that case.
It will be interesting to see if the Blue Krishna can exert the same kind of
leadership. With you and Barry and Les sounding convinced in advance, there
seems to be a high confidence level that it will.
We'll be watching this space with interest!
Doug
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23) From: Seth Grandeau
You guys convinced me.  I just ordered some.  I'm running out of places to
store the greens. :)
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24) From: Dave
I was placing an order anyway, but this discussion prompted me to buy 5# of
this. My first 5 lber.
Dave
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It's just not worth chewing through the leather straps
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25) From: Les
Mike G.
My wife loves this one  (Bali) brewed drip and with half and half.
To answer another question on the thread.  Barry, try roasting the
tree dried Brazil  into second crack if you have any left.  I found
this bean really sings when you take the roast darker.  I am not a big
dark roast fan, but I didn't like it at full city, but it is really
good at a light vienna.
Les
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26) From: MikeG
Thanks Les.  Are you hearing any snaps of 2C when roasting the Bali?
Mike
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27) From: Lynne
Yeah - this was the first time I ever ordered 10 lbs, and I never ordered
more than 20 lbs at a time (I actually ordered *40 total* [10 lbs ea of four
varieties] *..*.eeks... *40 lbs!!*)... but I figured my money is going to
run out, and this way I'm certain to have enough for awhile.
And - if my son (who loves my coffee) talks to enough people, I might be
able to sell a bit here and there.... (which will lead me to buy more...)
My only regret is I'll miss out on the Ethiopians that will be arriving..
Lynne
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28) From: Barry Luterman
Still have 4 pounds of it. But with 15 more pounds of Bali coming I think it
will get pushed to the back of the stash pile. It's not bad coffee just
disappointing
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29) From: Barry Luterman
Actually, I was afraid to take it that dark. I know Brazil's tend to get
ashy at dark roast. Perhaps I might try it again to make sure I have
explored all the possibilities. I have a felling this will wind up as my
Year -End gifting coffee.
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30) From: Michael Dhabolt
Barry,
I pushed the Tree Dried Brazil 10 seconds into 2nd crack and was
pretty happy with the outcome.
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31) From: Douglas Hoople
Is this the Ipanema Tree-DP that was shipping late last year, early this
year? I liked that. I was roasting it FC+-Vienna, probably unintentionally
(I was roasting everything too dark), and it turned out well at that level.
I was sorry to see it retired. Am wondering how the Ipanema Tree-DP that
arrived last week compares.
Doug
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32) From: Barry Luterman
Mine was the older crop. Anyone want to swap my 4 lbs for something else?
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33) From: Tim Carter
Ok, I'm convinced.  I just ordered 10# each of the Bali and IMV.
Tim
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34) From: Les
No,
I don't go that dark.  The nice thing about the USRC is precise
control.  I found the best flavor ending the roast 6 degrees short of
the beginning of second crack.
Les
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35) From: MikeG
OK, thanks.  I'll force myself to hit the behmor's cool button between
1C and 2C for this one.  10 lbs on the way and looking forward to a
change of pace from my 2 usuals: Mokha Mattari and Guat DP Oriente.
Though lately some Guat Ocana taken not quite to 2C has been very
lovely.
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36) From: Barry Luterman
As I said I take it just shy of second crack. Also note the Bali has very
little chaff for those of you who use an I-roast.
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37) From: Barry Luterman
If you like the Ocana you will love the Bali.Roast both the same way
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38) From: MikeG
I'm two roasts into this bean, one in the Behmor using Profile #1 and
one in the Hottop B on a more gentle profile.  I haven't tried the
Behmor batch yet but the Hottop Batch was very nice.  This bean lacks
the nutty sweetness that I usually gravitate toward but does posess a
soft herbal note, and I can't disagree with Les' characterizing it as
resembling basil.
One oddity that is a first with this bean: the color when taken 1
minute past end of 1C is a chalky, pastel brown.  I've never seen
another bean roast up with this palid color before.  Others here get
that as well?
Mike
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39) From: Les
Yes, but I don't judge a roast by color that much anymore.  The color
after the grind is the only color that is important.
Les
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40) From: John Mac
I jumped on the Blue Krishna bandwagon, couldn't help myself  ;-D
Should be here tomorrow afternoon on the UPS truck, woo hoo!
Looks like I'll be firing up the B1600 for a late afternoon roasting
session.
I'm wondering how the sage and basil get along with the milk chocolate
finish.
Should be fun as usual to find out what happens when I'm done.
John in Nor Cal
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41) From: MikeG
This Bali Blue Krishna is such a polished bean - barely a wisp of
chaff found in the Behmor after the roast.
My early impression is that P1 profile killed much of the subtle
flavor nuances of this bean - the batch I did on the Hottop B using a
more gentle profile seems to be a nicer cup.
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42) From: Mark Lizotte
John in Nor Cal...
What profile on the B1600 will you use?
The reason I ask is because my NEW BEHMOR should arrive tomorrow! YAHOO! I =
cannot wait.
I am pretty "green" at home roasting...so any help would be welcomed.
So many coffees...not enough money
Mark
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Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Sleeper Alert!
I jumped on the Blue Krishna bandwagon, couldn't help myself  ;-D
Should be here tomorrow afternoon on the UPS truck, woo hoo!
Looks like I'll be firing up the B1600 for a late afternoon roasting
session.
I'm wondering how the sage and basil get along with the milk chocolate
finish.
Should be fun as usual to find out what happens when I'm done.
John in Nor Cal
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43) From: Mark Osborne
Mine arrived yesterday,  I'll be roasting later today..... yeah!
Still in the air popper, will experiment with HG/DB as well. Bought
the digital thermometer from SM to get a better understanding of
what's happening at the bean....
Back to work.....
Mark
West Sonoma County
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44) From: John Mac
MikeG,
Thanks for the heads up!
Looks like a P4 profile is in order with this bean.
Any other Behmor roaster out there that have browned this bean, please chime
in.
Thanks!
John in Nor Cal
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45) From: John Mac
Mark,
I'm going to use P4 with a 1/2lb. of beans at the 1lb. setting and max time.
I've attached the P4 profile below.http://www.sweetmarias.com/behmor_images/p4.jpgI'll let you know how things turn out tomorrow when I cup the first of this
roast I will be doing later today.
Cheers,
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46) From: Richard Webber
Yes - please post your results. I have some on the way and will be trying the same thing later this week.
What roast level are you shooting for?
Richard
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Mark,
I'm going to use P4 with a 1/2lb. of beans at the 1lb. setting and max time.
I've attached the P4 profile below.http://www.sweetmarias.com/behmor_images/p4.jpgI'll let you know how things turn out tomorrow when I cup the first of this
roast I will be doing later today.
Cheers,
John in Nor Cal
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47) From: Seth Grandeau
John,
I would recommend using the 1 lb setting, but cut the time down to the 1/2
time profile (I think it's 15:00) before starting the roast, then after
starting, bump it up to the full time window.  That way you are following a
true P4 1/2 lb profile, but have all the extra time in the last phase (full
power).
-Seth
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48) From: Frank Parth
There's been a lot of discussion about the Bali Blue Batik and roasting in a Behmor. What about the GeneCafe roasters 
among us? What settings are you finding for this bean?
My first roast was 5 minutes at 325, 5 minutes at 425, take it to 465 and then well into first crack back down to 460 
or so stopping just at the beginning of second crack.
I liked the results so much I broke my earlier promise and ordered another five pounds.
Frank
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49) From: Barry Luterman
It's not the Batik it's the Krishna. Don't have a Gene but as I stated
before a very gentle sloap. Not a hard high grown bean and very little chaff
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