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Topic: Let's not foget who's list this is.. (15 msgs / 575 lines)
1) From: Joseph Robertson
Yes, for sure. Thank you for the reminder John.
Joe
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2) From: Peter Genuardi
While I find the great content in most of the posts on this list very
helpful, I find the continued righteous chiding of anyone who asks about
another vendor kind of silly and disrespectful of everyone's deep experience
in the field of coffee.
So, I'm leaving the list.
Seriously, has anyone ever been asked to be quiet at the hardware store when
they asked another customer if they know where else they can buy a caulking
gun?
Best Regards - Peter
peter
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3) From: Angelo
I was wondering when a self-appointed list policeman would jump into 
this... Good job!!  ha ha ha...
Oh, btw, I said "policeMAN", because I don't remember ever seeing one 
of our lovely ladies handling this chore. I guess it's about the 
testosterone...
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4) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Thanks  - i like their site as well, but we sell hand grinders you know...
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5) From: John Mac
Peter-
FYI, this is not an open forum, it's a private list, maintained at no cost
to the users, by the owners of a business that sells hand grinders.
Promoting another vendor is disrespectful to Tom and Maria, and has nothing
to do with righteousness!
If you cannot understand why this is a problem, don't let the door hit you
in the rear on the way out.
There are no two people on this planet that go to the lengths Tom and
Maria do to bring us the best green beans for home roasting,  bar none.
Regards,
John
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6) From: Jim and Tina Wheeler
Thank you John for a good explanation.  Like most of the list users, I
generally lurk and enjoy the information flow, but rarely contribute.
Again, like most list users, I am still learning about coffee and appreciate
the information that feeds my interest in good coffee.  For all this, we
should be grateful to our hosts and follow their rules in their "home".
Back to enjoying good coffee in the west desert of Utah.
-- 
Jim in South Skull Valley
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7) From: Lynne
Couldn't have said it better myself. There is NO business owner I know of
with the integrity of Tom and Maria.
It's like going into someone's house and trashing it... then complaining
about it.
If anyone is unsure, just drop them an email before you post a link to
another business, to see if it's OK.
Just common courtesy...
Lynne
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8) From: Martin Dobbins
Folks,
I feel somewhat guilty about this since I originated the thread for some ad=
vice, so my sincerest apologies if I have offended anyone.  =
The company I asked about seems to be in the business of refurbishing antiq=
ue hand grinders among other things, and it did not cross my mind that this=
 might be in competition to Sweet Marias.  In my naivete I assumed that s=
ince Sweet Marias does not appear to be in the business of restoring antiqu=
es it would not cause such problems.
Clearly I was mistaken so I will confine any future postings to the list to=
 questions and comments about Sweet Marias products and services.
Thank you for your understanding,
Martin
--- On Fri, 4/3/09, John Mac  wrote:
Peter-
FYI, this is not an open forum, it's a private list, maintained at no cost
to the users, by the owners of a business that sells hand grinders.
Promoting another vendor is disrespectful to Tom and Maria, and has nothing
to do with righteousness!
If you cannot understand why this is a problem, don't let the door hit you
in the rear on the way out.
There are no two people on this planet that go to the lengths Tom and
Maria do to bring us the best green beans for home roasting,  bar none.
Regards,
John
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9) From: Skydragon454
Peter, I wish I had something to add to your comment but it was so well put  
that all I can say is "Ditto". I completely agree.
 
-Eric
 
In a message dated 4/3/2009 3:09:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
johnt.mac writes:
Peter-
FYI, this is not an open forum, it's a private list,  maintained at no cost
to the users, by the owners of a business that sells  hand grinders.
Promoting another vendor is disrespectful to Tom and  Maria, and has nothing
to do with righteousness!
If you cannot  understand why this is a problem, don't let the door hit you
in the rear on  the way out.
There are no two people on this planet that go to the  lengths Tom and
Maria do to bring us the best green beans for home  roasting,  bar none.
Regards,
John
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10) From: John Mac
Angelo- List Rules
This is a free, *commercial* mail list (Sweet Maria's foots the bill to host
this list), but you do not have to be a customer to join or participate:
In brief here's the list rules, which you agree to by subscribing to the
list, (further explanations are
below
):
   - No outside commercial posts or solicitations - we do not allow outside
   commercial posts of any kind. This includes regular emails with commercial
   references, URLs, addresses or 800 numbers of products.*
   - No intentionally offensive language or posts - NO PROFANITY! Don't type
   anything that you would not say out loud - that is a good rule of thumb.
   - No posts detrimental to our business
   - Politeness and netiquette to other list members & the list
   administrator (that's me) is required. Feel free to disagree, but do it
   politely.
   - "Bad Faith" posting or "Baiting"; this list is for people who say what
   they mean, not for those who want to purposefully antagonize. If the list
   administrator feels a person consistently posts statements in "bad faith"
   then they will be removed from the list.
   - Off topic posting is discouraged, but if it is a spinoff of a
   coffee-related thread, please use the subject line convention "OT". OT is
   meant, as they say on the stage, as an "aside." People who consistently
   start off topic threads or don't properly label off topic threads are due
   for removal from the list. OT threads that have political, religious or
   other flashpoint topics and have the intent to antagonize will result in the
   removal of the poster.
   - (List removal note: don't assume you have been removed from the list
   for any reason. 99 out of 100 times you are removed from the list due to
   email bouncing back to the list server. If you are removed for a reason, you
   will be notified why. Yes, you can re-join the list if removeal is the
   result of some misunderstanding).
   - Other folks in the coffee trade may join, but please email me
   personally before attempting to join to introduce yourself.
Please communicate with me, Tom, personally at tom-at-sweetmarias.com if you
ever have questions about the rules, or if something you want to post
conflicts with them.
This has nothing to do with my private parts and everything to do with
respect!
Cheers,
John
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11) From: Angelo
I know the rules. I've been on this list for many years. Also, I 
agree with the rules and have not transgressed them. My point is: Who 
made YOU the list cop?
Tom is perfectly capable of reminding folks when they've gone a bit 
far afield. AAMOF, he has mentioned that he does sell (new only, as 
far as I know) hand grinders. If I read correctly those other people 
sell refurbished grinders. To me that is a different animal..
But, Tom thinks this is a transgression and I would defer to him, not you...
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12) From: Andy Thomas
To make us all feel bad for being jerks. Personally, I feel just awful. Tha=
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drown my sorrow and guilt. How are the rest of you coping?
From: Ken Knott 
To: homeroast
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 8:00:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Let's not foget who's list this is.. WWW.SWEETMARI=
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Why do people insist on announcing their departures?  Who cares....
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13) From: Brian Phipps
My double shot of Opheolite has not assuaged my guilt....... I think I'll
have another and see how I feel after that :-)
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14) From: Joseph Robertson
Hey Andy,
lets be real here. Tom doesn't want us to feel awful. It's simply an
awareness thing. It's his coffee shop/store/lobby and we should
imagine ourselves standing here looking at all the wares and when
someone asks about a particular item just ask if they have checked out
Toms. In the case of grinders for example refer them to Tom with
questions like can the ones he sells grind for espresso. We may not
always remember this, cyberstores can be somewhat abstract but for me
it's just keeping in mind where we are and how we got here.
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15) From: Andy Thomas
Of course. I wasn't referring to Tom, I was responding to the question: "Wh=
y do people insist on announcing their departures?"
From: Joseph Robertson 
To: homeroast
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 12:05:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Let's not foget who's list this is.. WWW.SWEETMARI=
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Hey Andy,
lets be real here. Tom doesn't want us to feel awful. It's simply an
awareness thing. It's his coffee shop/store/lobby and we should
imagine ourselves standing here looking at all the wares and when
someone asks about a particular item just ask if they have checked out
Toms. In the case of grinders for example refer them to Tom with
questions like can the ones he sells grind for espresso. We may not
always remember this, cyberstores can be somewhat abstract but for me
it's just keeping in mind where we are and how we got here.
JoeR
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