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Topic: Yemen Mokha Sana'ani and a Behmore (16 msgs / 454 lines)
1) From: Wally Merrin
The Yemen Mokha Sana'ani has become one of my favorite beans and I get  
great results roasting it in my Behmore.  Unfortunately, the small  
bean size results in a lot of beans falling through even though I'm  
using the small grid drum.  The early cracks from beans lying on the  
chaff tray can be misleading when listening for the first part of  
first crack, and of course they generate smoke.  So far I have been  
able to deal with it, but I have been limiting my roast sizes to 1/4  
pound thinking that the longer roast times of 1/2 pound would  
aggravate the situation.  I'm using a weighed 1/4 pound
on the P1 setting.
I'd like to roast larger batches, so I'm wondering if anyone roasts  
1/2 pound or larger quantities of the Yemen Mokha Sana'ani in a  
Behmore without problems?
Wally
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2) From: james McDougal
Hi Wally,
I've had the same problem with some beans - very small or broken ones fall
through and lie on the chaff tray. Here's how I've solved it. I weigh the
beans, load them in the drum and rotate and shake the drum over the sink to
give the smaller beans a chance to fall out, then reweigh the beans (I
really like to keep track of weight loss, because it allows me to compare
with earlier roasts) and start the Behmor. The other think I've considered
is when I do a 90 second preheat with beans (that's usual for me with 1
lb) before the roast empty the chaff tray and start the roast.
Good Luck!
Mac
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3) From: michael brown
i do 8oz without much problem.  i'll load it up, and hit the cool button so=
 i get several rotations and hopefully most of the small ones will fall thr=
ough before i actually start roasting.  there's always some that seem to wa=
it until i start roasting to fall through though.
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4) From: Rich
Yes, I have roasted 20 lb of that bean in a Behmor using P-1.  I roast 
in 1 lb batches only.  The small beans fall through the small  mesh 
drum.  To solve the bean fall problem I load the drum with 1.01 lb of 
beans and run a partial cool cycle.  After about 5 minutes in on the 
cycle the small beans have all fallen out.  Hit OFF and pull the chaff 
collector and remove the fallen beans.  Reinsert chaff collector and roast.
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5) From: John Mac
Wally,
I roast 1/2 pounders of that very bean and know all to well of the problem.
The work around is to rotate the drum by hand outside of the roaster to get
those little buggers to fall out on the counter before you roast. Give it a
try, you'll be pleased with the results.
Cheers!
John in Nor Cal
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6) From: Richard Webber
Have you tried running the beans on the cool cycle for a while before starting the roast to try and get most of those smaller beans to fall out before you start? I have done this a few times with other beans in my regular drum and it seems to have reduced the number that fall out during the roast.
Richard
From: Wally Merrin 
To: homeroast
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 12:44:30 AM
Subject: [Homeroast] Yemen Mokha Sana'ani and a Behmore
The Yemen Mokha Sana'ani has become one of my favorite beans and I get great results roasting it in my Behmore.  Unfortunately, the small bean size results in a lot of beans falling through even though I'm using the small grid drum.  The early cracks from beans lying on the chaff tray can be misleading when listening for the first part of first crack, and of course they generate smoke.  So far I have been able to deal with it, but I have been limiting my roast sizes to 1/4 pound thinking that the longer roast times of 1/2 pound would aggravate the situation.  I'm using a weighed 1/4 pound
on the P1 setting.
I'd like to roast larger batches, so I'm wondering if anyone roasts 1/2 pound or larger quantities of the Yemen Mokha Sana'ani in a Behmore without problems?
Wally
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7) From: Bruce Garley
That's what I do for this bean, run the cooling cycle for a few minutes to
get the bits and pieces out. There seems to be an abnormally large amount of
broken and small beans in this crop, maybe 1/2 TB per 1/2 # run.
Bruce Garley
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8) From: Mark Lizotte
I am glad to see someone else is having a similar experience with the Yemen=
 coffee.
On my Behmor, I was roasting the Sana 'ani  #1/2  ( 227 grams ) on the =
#1 setting P3 C  I used  in the small grid drum. When all was said and =
done I had about 10 grams waste. I was kinda bummed about it. The coffee wa=
s GREAT!
Even if you do what you say....use the cool cycle to get the small bits out=
 ( there's a lot of them ) What do you do with those small bits? Seems a sh=
ame to waste them =-(
So many coffees...not enough money!
Mark
From: Bruce Garley 
To: Richard Webber ; "A list to discuss home coffee roasti=
ng. There are rules for this list, available athttp://www.sweemarias.com/m=aillistinfo.html" 
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:47:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Yemen Mokha Sana'ani and a Behmore
That's what I do for this bean, run the cooling cycle for a few minutes to
get the bits and pieces out. There seems to be an abnormally large amount of
broken and small beans in this crop, maybe 1/2 TB per 1/2 # run.
Bruce Garley
Plant Whisperer
San Juan Capistrano, CA
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9) From: John and Emma
I also love this bean and run it on cool cycle first to remove any that may
fall out during roasting. I have found that by running the cool cycle for
about 10 minutes (when using a 1 lb batch) eliminates almost all beans that
will fall through the drum. I tried 5 minutes on cool cycle several times
but still had too many beans fall through during roasting when running a 1
lb batch. The 5 minutes is fine when running 1/2 lb batches.
I go one step farther and save any errand beans and roast those in my
Poppery II.
John H.

10) From: Yakster
I was doing this too, but saw a recent post from Joe Behm that the
afterburner kicks on after about 30 seconds when you run a cool cycle, so
I've asked on that forum if this will wear out the afterburner.  This was
actually a tip to check to see if it's working (look for the glow with just
a cool cycle running with the drum out to verify).
Your comment about saving the smalls for a popcorn roast has me curious.  I
started saving my smalls along with any defects.  Anyone roast up the
defects that they cull out of curiosity to find out how much effect it has
on the roast?
-Chris
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11) From: Wally Merrin
Thanks for all the comments.  Somewhere along the line I had seen the  
recommendation for running the Behmore on "Cool" for a few minutes at   
the beginning of a roast and that does help.  I still get quite a few  
pieces dropping through during the roast, but certainly not as many.   
I was concerned about the longer roast times for a 1/2 pound batch  
leading to more smoke, so I'm glad to hear that isn't an issue.  Next  
batch I do will be a 1/2 pound.
Thanks again for the comments.
Wally
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12) From: John and Emma
I've never saved any defects personally.
John H.

13) From: Ira
At 06:33 PM 5/1/2009, you wrote:
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I think it turns on immediately, at least according to the 
Kill-A-Watt it does. I don't think there is any reason the 
afterburner should burn out unless it was made improperly at the 
factory. Mine broke and I've had it out to replace and decided to 
just repair it as I had the proper high temperature crimp terminals 
and crimping tools. I think it's been working longer since the repair 
than it lasted to start with.
Ira
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14) From: an iconoclast
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Wally Merrin  wrote:
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Hi Wally,
I just roasted a 1 lb batch of the Yemen Mokha Mattari to test and had nary
a bean fall through. Have no idea if the Mokha Sana'ani is smaller. I
regularly inspect my small grid drum to make sure there are no wide spots
and move the wires back in place if that's the case.
Take care,
Ann
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15) From: decrisce.md
I also have roasted the sanaani and other yemens in the behmor, at one pound without any problem. I use the smaller grid drum, fill it up, and then turn it by hand over the sink, letting the small beans fall out. 
Still some may stick in the grid while roasting, but generally not a problem. 
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16) From: Wally Merrin
Thanks, Ann..
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I'm still new at this so I haven't roasted a lot of different beans,  
but the Mokha Sana'ani has the widest variation of bean sizes I have  
seen - from tiny to not-too-bad.  Plus, there are broken pieces in  
it.  It's pretty messy, but it has become my favorite variety, so I  
just put up with the mess.  I roasted a half pound in the Behmor last  
night and got a lot of pretty sparklies during the first couple of  
minutes in the cool cycle.  I have had chaff flash before, but this is  
the first time I have had sparks flying around.  Fortunately the  
roaster was sitting on top of the stove with the exhaust hood running,  
so I just kept a close eye on it and let it do it's thing.  After a  
minute or so it calmed down.  The beans are resting, but they look  
fine and I'm sure everything is ok.
Wally
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