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Topic: Hearthware I-Roast 2 (11 msgs / 214 lines)
1) From: Robert Sladek
Hi everyone,
I just signed up last week and I have a question.
My kids want to buy me  home roaster and I was looking at the  
Hearthware I-Roast 2. I've read alot of the reviews and it seems this  
might be a good 1st time roaster for someone like me. I would  
appreciate any thoughts-pro & cons on this roaster.
Thanks    Bob Sladek
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2) From: Joseph Robertson
Robert,
the i-roast2 was my first roaster. Very happy with it. Great starter. Used
the dryer hose out our crank out window.
I didn't get into using the profiles as much as just P1 and roast by smell
and sight and sound and stop it manually. It runs hot.
If you or they can afford it I would go with a Behmor. It was not on the
market when I got my I-roast2. I got to meet the inventor. Great customer
support with this. You would not be sorry.
JR
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Robert Sladek  wrote:
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3) From: Joseph Robertson
Robert,
Check out the thread that Jeff started on the Behmor.
JR
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4) From: Barry Luterman
If you really get into roasting you will swiftly outgrow the I-Roast. The
Behmor will satisfy you for a  much longer time until upgraditis sets in.
The difference in price is not that great and you will probably wind up with
the Behmor anyway.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Joseph Robertson wrote:
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5) From: raymanowen
Suggest to the kids that you might profit more from the hands-on experience
afforded by a heat gun and dog bowl- literally- or deep mixer bowl.
Something like a stainless steel salad bowl and spatula-shaped s/s spoon for
agitating.
The Sweet Maria's digital thermocouple temperature meter or an infra red
temperature meter would be a nice option, but not mandatory accessory to get
started. This whole setup is pretty bullet proof, spare parts are cheap and
available at a hardware store, and you could duplicate it 2X over and still
have a pile of change left from the iRoast price.
If you start with a complicated roaster, you'll just learn which buttons to
push- on that roaster. Hope I don't sound too crotchety, but the aftermath
of my dentist's drilling and capping a chipped tooth earlier is like the
tide rolling in.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Ach, du Lieber, mein Gott in Himmel ! !
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6) From: Jim Gundlach
I agree with this.  I suggest learning roasting using a wok over a  
good gas burner or as I started out a wood stove that lets you adjust  
the heat.  Not only do you get to fully experience the roast but it  
allows you to break a full pound roast into as many as four separate  
roast levels of the same coffee and brewing them lets you taste the  
difference in each level and even blend the different roast levels to  
compare them with single roast level batches.  The problem is that  
this really smokes up the house if you do it inside.
       pecan jim
On Jun 8, 2009, at 3:16 PM, raymanowen wrote:
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7) From: Joseph Robertson
Robert,
I agree with Ray and Jim here. It really helps to get a up close and a hands
on picture of what coffee roasting is all about. As miKe M. has put it in
his own words before and this is far from a quote, anyone can turn beans
brown, but it takes many moons and many roasts to learn how to bring out the
best in any given bean or variety. The methods discribed by Ray and Jim will
cut some time off your basic burning / I mean learning curve. Bottom line
here like Jim says is taste , taste , and taste and revel in this fun
passion we all share here.
JoeR
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8) From: Robert Sladek
Thanks! It does sound somewhat complicated w/ the temp not being  
exact. i've been reading the post about the Behmor and it might be a  
better machine.
Bob
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9) From: Jim Couch
Yup, learning with an HG/DB setup is not only cheap but will allow you to be
able to get a good roast out of any of the roasting machines if you just
watch listen and sniff.
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Joseph Robertson wrote:
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10) From: Allon Stern
On Jun 8, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Robert Sladek wrote:
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What are you looking to get out of a machine?
If you're looking for a set it and forget it machine, maybe it's better.
If you're looking to tweak and tune profiles, there are better, but  
they cost more.
If you want to roast and drink coffee, go ahead and get a behmor.
If you want to really learn how beans behave, and the mechanics of  
the roast, then I would echo Rayo and others and say get a heat gun &  
dog bowl setup. It's cheap, effective, and you're sitting right there  
next to the beans, in the thick of the roast, smelling the smoke,  
watching the beans. It really is a way to get intimate with the beans.
I'm sure wok roasting is similar.
I fear that starting out roasting with a behmor, you would lose a lot  
of the experience along the path to learning the way of the bean. I'd  
suggest starting with a cheap heat gun and dog bowl, ruining a few  
roasts, getting the hang of it, and then moving on to a behmor, if  
you're so inclined. Or if you do start with a behmor, at least play  
with other techniques.
-
allon
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11) From: Joseph Robertson
Nice suggestion Allon.
Joe
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Allon Stern  wrote:
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