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Topic: Durians [OT] (21 msgs / 414 lines)
1) From: David Martin
99 Ranch Market carries them frozen, at least in the SF Bay Area, as
do some other local asian groceries. Personally I like them and have a
certain fascination with them, even though (or perhaps because) we
once had a raw chicken go bad in our 'fridge, and my initial reaction
on discovering the smell was, "it smells exactly like a durian!"
I rarely buy them, though, due to the immense social pressure against
doing so. Last time was about 5 years ago. I brought a couple durians
home and my family treated me as if I'd brought a dead skunk into the
house. It was too much durian to eat all by myself in one sitting, so
I put the leftovers in a reusable plastic container, and took it to
work the next morning along with the rest of my lunch. At the time I
was in the habit of eating lunch at my desk while I worked. I almost
opened the container, but imagining the powerful odor that would
permeate the area, and the resulting consternations and uproar, I
decided to leave it closed. Around 5:30 I left the office. As it
happened, it was a Friday and we were going camping that weekend, and
I was going to drive directly to the campground. I still had the
leftover durian, which had been sitting unopened on my desk all
afternoon. I had a notion to bring it with me and eat it at the
campground, but then I realized I faced a dilemma. It had been
sitting, unrefrigerated, for hours. Even when perfectly fresh, it
smells like a rotten chicken, so if it had gone bad, how on earth
would I be able to tell? It was unfortunate, but I would have to cut
my losses and toss it out. Then an evil thought occurred to me - I
could empty the container into the trash bin in the office kitchen,
where it might sit all weekend and stink up the entire office. I was
slightly disgruntled with this employer, but that was too
passive-aggressive even for me. I tossed the entire unopened container
in the dumpster outside the building. I figured the plastic was fully
durianized at this point, and wouldn't be reusable.
What I learned from this experience is not to buy a durian unless
there is at least one other person who I know will partake.
-Dave
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2) From: Slinkster
David Martin wrote:
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The Asian super where I do a good bit of shopping carries fresh 
durians.  I am convinced that 80% of that "Asian market aroma" would go 
away if they'd drop the fresh durians from the produce department...  I 
bought a frozen one once to try in kefir smoothies instead of mango.  
Couldn't do it.
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3) From: F.R. Parth
David,
I feel your pain. Our first exposure was in Singapore in 2002. You could smell the fresh durian from a block away. Interesting taste, though. The first person to eat one was really brave, or desperate. 
Ranch 99 market in southern Cal sells them fresh in season. I made the mistake of buying one a couple years ago and was told immediately to take it out to the garage and do whatever I wanted with it there. 
Frank
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4) From: Alchemist John
I have wanted to try one for some time now.  Always up for radical 
foods.  Even found some frozen in a local market.  Are those 
representative of a fresh one.  I am often leery of frozen 
fruit.  Has anyone compared fresh vs frozen?  Worth it?
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5) From: Yakster
There's a Ranch 99 a few blocks from work.
Just need to find someone to try it with me.
What coffee goes with durian?  Tanz PB?
-Chris
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6) From: Barry Luterman
If you can get past the smell The texture is creamy. The fruit rather bland.
An advantage to the frozen is that the smell is not as bad if eaten half
frozen. Fully thawed they are difficult to deal with.It is the only thing
I have seen Andrew Zimmer spit out. Years ago, as a young man, I worked in
the funeral trade. I remember going out on a pick up of an old lady who had
died in her hot apartment some days previously. The neighbors became
suspicious because of the smell emanating from her apartment. The place
smelled like over ripe Durian.
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7) From: F.R. Parth
Coffee? I'd recommend a Sam Adams. 
Frank
 
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8) From: Alchemist John
Having never tried one, I was thinking maybe Arrogant Bastard.
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9) From: Tom Ulmer
Someone call?

10) From: Allon Stern
Arrogant Bastard? You're not worthy :-)
If you're into Stone Brewery, the Ruination IPA may be a better  
pairing with durian.
A roommate of mine long ago was a homebrewer; he used to make homebrew  
plambics, which were pretty awesome, but I never could convince him to  
try a durian plambic, no matter how hard I tried.
Actually, he did say he would do it if I bought him all new equipment  
afterwards. I guess I just didn't try hard enough :-)
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allon
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11) From: Benjamin VerHage
I say if you're in to Stone Brewery, skip the durian and go for the mac and beer cheese :)
Ben
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Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Durians [OT]
Arrogant Bastard? You're not worthy :-)
If you're into Stone Brewery, the Ruination IPA may be a better pairing with durian.
A roommate of mine long ago was a homebrewer; he used to make homebrew plambics, which were pretty awesome, but I never could convince him to try a durian plambic, no matter how hard I tried.
Actually, he did say he would do it if I bought him all new equipment afterwards. I guess I just didn't try hard enough :-)
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12) From: Jeff Wikstrom
Ooh. I could get very OT about beer right now. John: some time soon,
we should sit down and have a beer and coffee discussion...
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13) From: Yakster
Yeah, there's a lot of us home roasters who are or have been home brewers
too.
Only makes sense.  Anyone else try Mead (fermented honey)?  I only made one
(10 gallon) batch, and in 5 gallon plastic buckets, no less, but I fondly
remember that.
-Chris
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14) From: John Mac
I love Mead, it has a great buzz ! (sorry I couldn't pass on that one)
There was a brew pub in Chico, Ca that had a killer raspberry mead I would
drink till I was floored, oh the memories!
Made a couple of batches in my home brew days but could never get it quite
right, the yeast seemed to be the weak link.
I tried with a couple of different champagne and one lager yeast strain but
to no avail. It just tasted OK and not great.
It did pack a mean punch though.
Cheers,
John in Nor Cal
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15) From: Jeff Wikstrom
I've never done a mead. Just did a copper for "summer beer". Usually I
do IPAs. But, you're right. The diy ethic runs across every aspect of
my life.
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16) From: Barry Luterman
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17) From: Barry Luterman
And how smelly is it?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQj-hFfmYkQ&feature=relatedOn Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Barry Luterman  wrote:
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18) From: Jim Gundlach
When I was a kid growing up on a farm in western Oklahoma, we went  
bankrupt because of a long drought in the late 50's so we made a  
living making moonshine.  In my first year of college I had limited  
money and made my own beer and when a batch went off flavor I would  
distill it to make a scotch like whiskey.  In my second year of  
college they started the GI Bill again and I could afford to buy beer  
and spend more time with girls.  I have always been amazed at how  
people take what I see as an illegal dirty chore and treat it as a  
hobby to talk about.
      pecan jim
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19) From: Yakster
Well, my family history goes back to a brewery in Bay City, MI that
went under due to Prohibition.
All I got was a beer sign and a bottle capper my dad used in college
to bottle beer. Back then you bottled when the specific gravity was
just right and if you were early your bottles exploded and if you were
late the beer was flat.
I never had that problem and had a pretty good time brewing.  I
attended a homebrew convention in Oakland and learned a lot about
tasting and brewing.  Friends went pro too.  Joined a club for a while
after. I graduated.
I would love a home roast convention with roast contests cupping
classes, home Barista comp, etc.
Coffee was a chore too in the past before commercial roasting took over.
I just like being able to make something better then mass market. I'll
never be Sierra Nevada Brewery or Intelligencia, but I'll beat Coors
and Starbucks anyway. My tastes are too far outside the mass market
anyway.
-Chris
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20) From: David Martin
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:09 PM, F.R. Parth wrote:
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I was staying in Singapore for about 6 months in 1991, which is where
I was introduced to durians. I don' t know if this myth is still
alive, but at the time it was a commonly held belief amongst
Singaporeans that if you consumed durians and beer at the same time,
something terrible would happen. The details varied, but usually it
involved a chemical reaction in your stomach and/or intestines,
causing one or both to rupture or explode.
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21) From: Zara Haimo
I've had fresh durian twice.  Neither time was the smell overpowering.  It 
was more of a musty smell than anything totally disgusting.  One time we 
were camping with a friend who brought a cooler of various tropical fruits 
with her including a durian.  When she opened the cooler, we didn't smell 
anything unusual, but when she was cutting the durian open, we could smell 
it.  The durian tasted good, but not amazing.  As I remember, it had a sort 
of sweet custard taste (and texture).  I wonder if the durian didn't smell 
overpowering because it wasn't really that fresh - from the date it was 
picked, it had to be shipped to the US, then trucked to the store, then 
bought my friend a couple of days before we went camping.
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