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Topic: Coffee Roaster (16 msgs / 388 lines)
1) From: decesarecj
I want to purchase my husband a coffee roaster. I have up to $500.00 to spend. ?He isn't one that likes difficulty. Turn a couple of dials, and that's about it. Any suggestions. Likes his coffee on the full bodied, somewhat darker side...Thank You!
Teresa De Cesare
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2) From: Brian Phipps
Behmor 1600 from sweetmarias.com.  Can't go wrong, IMHO.
-Brian
On Jul 10, 2009, at 2:49 PM, decesarecj wrote:
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3) From: Rich
Sounds like he would be pleased with the Behmor.  Does not require any 
burning desire to be a coffee roasting master to get good home roast out 
of it.
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4) From: Susan
Oh heck, don't get a Fresh Roast, get a drum roaster.  I've tried the Fresh 
Roast and the darn thing cracked right at the spot where the recepticle 
goes, twice.

5) From: R Nepsund
How much coffee do you use a week?  Can he roast outdoors?  Does he
have experience roasting coffee?
The Behmor is popular.  It has great customer service, can roast a
pound at a time,  be used indoors  and costs about $300.http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.behmor.phpOn Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:49 PM,  wrote:
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6) From: Jim Gundlach
I can recommend the Behmor 1600, it is available from Sweetmarias for  
about $300.  If you want it simple push the button for the 1/4, 1/2 or  
1 pound load based on what you are roasting and keep it simple by  
pushing the P1 and Start buttons in that order.  It has more elaborate  
options if you want to get complex but that is not necessary. If you  
get this roaster you might also want to get a scale for weighting  
coffee before roasting.  Sweetmarias also sells some of those I believe.
        pecan jim
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7) From: Edward Bourgeois
I'd start by looking around the Sweet Marias site. Tom has all the
good choices with all kinds of info. and comparison data.
enjoy,
great gift,
Ed
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8) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 04:49 PM 7/10/2009, you wrote:
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First let me say that you seem like a wonderful wife! :)
I have the GeneCafe, which I believe is in (or at least very near) 
your budget.  Had mine for 2 or 3 years (it was also a birthday gift, 
authorized by my ever-indulgent wife).
Works great, very easy to use.  My simple profile is to load with 250 
grams of beans, set the timer for 20 minutes and the temp to full 
blast (482).  I roast out in our sunroom and when the weather is nice 
I open the sliding door and a couple of windows for 
ventilation.  When it's not I just close the door into the main house 
and vent the smoke out when I'm done - and there *will* be smoke.
I run at 482 for 10 minutes, by which time the exit air temp is up to 
the 456 I want (I generally roast to Full City / Full City+, or right 
at the edge of second crack).  At this time I dial the temperature 
down to 456 to keep it where I want it.  It's usually done about 6 
minutes later, or with 4:00 left on the timer.  Yes, I *could* set to 
16 minutes but by setting to 20 I don't have to mess with turning the 
knob to add more time if I need it and since I started at a nice, 
even number it's easy to keep track of elapsed time.
The one minor drawback to the GeneCafe is that you can't instantaly 
stop a roast.  Well, you *can* do an emergency stop and dump your 
beans into a separate cooler but I think that's hard on the machine 
so i don't do it.  This means you have to hit the cool button just a 
bit *before* you hit the point you want which can take a couple of 
roasts to figure out.
I use a small tactical flashlight (*very* bright) and watch the smoke 
column.  I'm also keeping an eye on the color of the beans (easy to 
do with the glass drum) and listening for cracks (slightly harder 
because they're hidden in the noise of the beans tumbling).  Right as 
the beans go into second crack the smoke production kicks up 
noticeably.  By shining a light across the smoke you can see it 
better and it generally will connect to the outlet at this point.  At 
first the smoke starts off forming well above the outlet but as it 
gets closer to second crack the point where it's visible gets 
lower.  The smoke also starts smelling sweeter but not everyone can 
pick up on that.  Sniffing too much of the roasting smoke will make 
you dizzy and give you a heck of a  buzz - there *is* caffeine in 
it.  My ever-indulgent wife found that it will also lower your blood 
pressure (caffeine is a vaso-dialator so that makes sense).
In any case, when I see the smoke connecting / just think it's time I 
hit the 'cool' button and flip open the top cover to let more heat 
escape.  I usually have right at 4:00 minutes left on the timer (from 
my starting time of 20:00) and it takes it about 11:00 minutes to 
fully cool.  I dump the beans into a very large mesh strainer I got 
at the Chinese supermarker and set them over a running fan pointed 
straight up to get them from 140 down cooler for storage.  During 
this time I put the drum back and turn off the GeneCafe, take the 
chaff collector outside (except in really terrible weather where I 
empty it into the trash can) and empty out the chaff.  Sometimes it's 
a lot, sometimes there's nothing there.  I always huff and puff, tap 
and blow, and generally do what it takes to get it as clean as I possibly can.
Every now and then I remember to lift the whole unit up and make sure 
the intake screen on the bottom is clear.  So far, so good for me 
even with two cats shedding on things.  I keep the unit in the 
sunroom with an old pillow case over it to keep it out of the sun (as 
per instructions).  The chaff collector, drum holder, and a steel 
canning funnel live in a basket next to it.  I use the canning funnel 
to pour the fully cooled beans into pint mason jars for storage.  The 
approximate half-pound / roast lasts us about a week and I roast a 
couple of days before the previous batch is gone.
You can do better than I do - I don't strive for perfect coffee, I 
just routinely and easily make *good* coffee.
I've accumulated multiple ways to roast coffee - my original 
FreshRoast (not even a Plus - the original) which is great for tiny 
batches and learning, my CafeRoasto which is probably what I'd fall 
back to if my GeneCafe was having problems, my Turbo/Crazy (part of a 
Turbo Air Oven over part of a Stir-Crazy popcorn popper), heat gun / 
dog bowl, an AromaPot (basically a modified WhirlyPop popcorn popper 
I occasionally practice with so I can still roast coffee in an 
emergency by using it over my MSR back-packing stove), and probably 
one or two more.  Yes, I also have a variety of ways to make coffee, 
from the Superauto Jura/Capresso F9 we use daily for Cafe Crema's 
through my AeroPress I use for work and travel, various drip choices, 
a vacuum pot, etc..  In 20 years at this house the longest our power 
has been off is a few hours but I'm ready just in case.
Happy Birthday to your husband!
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9) From: Ed Needham
I'm thinking that if he doesn't like the difficulty of managing details, he 
wouldn't much like roasting coffee.  It's a very hands on activity.
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Ed Needham
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10) From: decrisce.md
Try the behmor. Look at the website and some reviews and see if it will fit him. It has worked well for me and many on this list.  
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11) From: Robert Flanery
Jim Hit it n the head.  What ever chice yu make, you will need a reasonably
accurate set of gram scales to weigh the coffee.  He should expect to take
notes on each batch and home his skills a bit.  No roasting method is
wouthout some user effort, and I isspect once he has one he will find
himself getting more and more involved with the process.
Currently, I use a Behmor, and the results aer quite good with a minimum of
effort.
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12) From: Brian Kamnetz
You might be interested in past discussions on this very topic,
including some comparisons. Here is an old thread from this list, with
the topic, "[Homeroast] GeneCafe vs Behmor":http://themeyers.org/cgi-bin/nopre.cgi/HomeRoast/Topic28251.htmBrian
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13) From: raymanowen
"... if he doesn't like the difficulty of managing details, he wouldn't much
like roasting coffee.  It's a very hands on activity." -Ed
And he could come to hate the taste of coffee itself.
There is a subscription arrangement for the Roastmaster's art @ Sweet
Maria's.
Put the funds into a Grinder, and make a coffee lover happy.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
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14) From: g paris
Hi Teresa:
If your husband wants to roast I would suggest a Behmor 1600, excellent
machine for the money, great
customer support and it will alllow him to "move up" if he wants to do more
then push the buttons.
There are ton's of profiles for this roasters around (profiles = which
button to push for the roast.)
good luck and let us know what you decide.
ginnyhttp://homeroasters.org/php/news.phpSweet Maria has the roaster with value added sample beans! best place to
buy!!
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15) From: raymanowen
This thread seems to be going pretty far afield:
"...you can't instantaly stop a roast.
Well, you *can* do an emergency stop and dump your beans into a separate
cooler...
[That's called "exercising human control over the roast."] Otherwise how
would you learn?
"but I think that's hard on the machine...
[In what way, would that be hard on the machine? You wouldn't be forcing
operation outside of its design temperature parameters]
so i don't do it." [Live Dangerously- outsmart the machine]
If you like the results and the machine seems to be suffering from abuse,
post it on eBay with no reserve.
This is the way you always roast with a heat gun and dog bowl or bread
machine. For $100, you can get a complete 1#  roasting setup with spares.
The Hellacious cooling blower was an additional $2, and the Target screen
mesh colander was $11 more. The cooler will never need spares.
Cheers, Mabuhay und guten Morgen -RayO, aka Opa!
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16) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 10:23 AM 7/13/2009, you wrote:
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Ray,
I actually semi-agree with you.  That's one reason I have several 
roasting methods available.  But with the GeneCafe I feel that the 
emergency stop / separate cool is going to shorten the lifespan of 
the machine by some amount.  Probably a small amount as long as you 
follow the directions for how to do it, but rather like the folks who 
surf the temperature on their espresso machines, I kind of like 
grokking the stopping point.
For high speed cooling I prefer the colander in the top of a bucket 
with a vacuum hose 1/3 up from the bottom cooler, although there you 
have to be careful the hose can handle the heat.  Slap a nice fan 
on/in the side of the bucket and you eliminate that problem but 
*do*create a veribable chaff cannon.
Enjoy!
Steve:->
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