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Topic: Clever Coffee Dripper (39 msgs / 860 lines)
1) From: John A C Despres
The Clever Coffee Dripper is the way to go for travel if you're brewing more
than a cup at a time. The quality is worth double what Tom and Maria are
charging. I ordered it with the brown Filtropa filters which I'm not as
enamored with. I've been using either Chemex filters or the Swiss Gold when
filtering for more than a year now. Tomorrow's brew wil be with the Swiss
Gold filter.
For travel, it may be a bit large, but it'll do the job. And it doesn't drip
when it's not supposed to.
John
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2) From: Dean De Crisce
How does it match up to the aeropress, which has been my trusty travel
friend?
Dean
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3) From: Kris McN
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:12 AM, John A C Despres wrote:
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I'd say not just for travel.  I couldn't resist another brew method for
under $14, so I ordered one a couple of weeks ago.  I'm loving the CCD and
have been using it on the weekends lately, which means I haven't fired up La
P in awhile and haven't missed it *gasp*!  The CCD is such a simple idea,
and so similar to other low tech methods, that it doesn't seem so novel, but
I'm loving drip brew in a whole new way.  I've always loved the flavor of
french press, but I hate the sediment (and the clean up).  The CCD really
does give you the flavor of french press, but with none of the sediment and
a much easier clean up.  It makes exactly 2 cups (we use the 7 oz Bodum
Assams), which is perfect for hubby and I on the weekend as we have a couple
of rounds each with a different bean.
Tom does explicitly recommend not using a Swiss gold filter with it, and I
concur.  The brew has better clarity and flavor using the paper.  "But what
about teh precious oils???"  I know, right?  But I've tried it both ways and
the paper filter is just better in this case.  YMMV.
Kris McN
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4) From: Captain CowPie
That reminds me of the IngenuiTea tea brewer from Adagio (which I have  
used for coffee brewing). Sounds like a great idea, and the price is  
right. It will be interesting to see how it tastes without the oils,  
but sounds like that is the way to go.
Time to order one.
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On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Kris McN wrote:
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5) From: Justin Schwarz
I like mine, was in desparate need of a quick cup in the morning now  
that I'm finally back to work.  Of course I should probably put the  
gaggia on a timer, or just wake up earlier.  I was also wondering  
about a swissgold, but didn't catch that part in the description.   
Compared to AP, well 2 different birds I guess.  The best cup of drip  
I've ever had!
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6) From: Sue
I have 2 of the Adagio Tea drippers (large and small) and really love them.
I am just about to order a few from Tom, one for home and one for work!
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7) From: Angelo
I'm wondering if the polyfilters that are recommended for the 
Aeropress can be fashioned into a cone shape so that you could still 
have your oils, but w/o the sediment??
Best of both worlds...
A.
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8) From: John A C Despres
Ira, there's no comparison - two different birds, really. Both are great
cups of coffee. I have an AeroPress as well in my travel kit and now I have
variety.
I'm also with Kris. It's a homebrewer as well.
John
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9) From: Yakster
I'd be interested in a source for the Aeropress polyfilters that you
reference.
-Chris
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10) From: Dave Huddle
Chris,
Scott Marquardt   scott.marquardt  is the fellow that used
to have the polyester stuff to make Aeropress filters from.
Haven't seen him on the list in a long time.
Dave
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11) From: R Nepsund
I have been doing the polyester filter felt thing with the AP.   As
far as I know you have to buy some 5 micron polyester filter felt from
some place like McMasters, cut the disks out of it and  either thin
the edges of the filter disk or trim the end cap so the thicker filter
felt will fit.   They can be cleaned using oxyclean.  I have also
heard of people cutting disks out of Swiss Gold metal filters.
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12) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
You might find some fairly good intensities coming out of the Clever 
Coffee Dripper with a paper filter, and not feel the need for other 
filtration types. The full 4 minute steep really extracts a lot from 
the coffee. We had recommended a typical paper filter grind, but I am 
finding that a coarser grind and a slightly shorter infusion time 
might be best, because it was coming out a bit too strong actually. 
Now I am testing this:
500 ML water (about 16 ounces) right off boil
27 grams coffee, roughly 3 level SCAA blue scoops
Coarser grind (nearly Fr Press)
Add full amount of water, which is to the rim of cone, cover...
At 1:30, stir briefly to break the "crust" of grinds and cover
At 3:00 begin to drain
4:00 - Draining is near completion.
Tom
PS Just a note too that, beyond all the touted great stuff in coffee, 
antioxidents etc., the outstanding unhealthy contents of coffee are 
in the oils and solids that come with overextraction and/or 
permissive filtration (ie Fr Press and Swissgold) -  cholesterols 
namely.
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13) From: Robert Flanery
I will be interested to see what comes of this.  I use an Aeropress from
time to time, but this device intrigues me.  I drink ALOT of drip...
Not being an expert it is always nice to start from someone else's findings
as a departure point.  Thanks for that.
Rob
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14) From: Angelo
It seems that if the unit were made of a double-walled plastic (for 
insulation), the coffee would not have to be in the water for so long...
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15) From: Wes Tyler
Everyone that owns a Technivorm has a reasonable imitation of the Clever Coffee Dripper that came with their machine. It even comes with a lid. I tried leaving the filter basket closed using Tom's recommendations of 27g and 16oz of water. Great cup of coffee. Very close to Aeropress and French press taste but no mud. I may get one for travel. 
wes
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Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Clever Coffee Dripper
You might find some fairly good intensities coming out of the Clever Coffee Dripper with a paper filter, and not feel the need for other filtration types. The full 4 minute steep really extracts a lot from the coffee. We had recommended a typical paper filter grind, but I am finding that a coarser grind and a slightly shorter infusion time might be best, because it was coming out a bit too strong actually. Now I am testing this:
500 ML water (about 16 ounces) right off boil
27 grams coffee, roughly 3 level SCAA blue scoops
Coarser grind (nearly Fr Press)
Add full amount of water, which is to the rim of cone, cover...
At 1:30, stir briefly to break the "crust" of grinds and cover
At 3:00 begin to drain
4:00 - Draining is near completion.
Tom
PS Just a note too that, beyond all the touted great stuff in coffee, antioxidents etc., the outstanding unhealthy contents of coffee are in the oils and solids that come with overextraction and/or permissive filtration (ie Fr Press and Swissgold) -  cholesterols namely.
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16) From: Seth Grandeau
Technivorm, the $250 alternative to the Clever Coffee Dripper. :)
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17) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
saw a reference to the CCD here, and wanted to tell all that I have 
been doing a lot of brew tests lately to check taste and extraction 
from various types, including the new Hario V60 (results not that 
great). actually the traditional poreclain drip cone with one drain 
hole was a great performer.
Now the CCD really isnt a typical dripper. With a real dripper, 
technique matters a lot  - you can't just dump a lot of hot water in 
a normal dripper and get great results.
But we had some issues with the CCD and grind. We were 
under-extracting with a coarse grind. We hit the correct extraction 
and best cup results with the following recipe:
-fine grind, on the fine end of filter-drip grind, but not espresso 
grind for sure.
-20 grams coffee
-350 grams hot water
-4 minute steep until drain, 5:30 until last water drains out of coffee
-cover immediately with a plate
-lift plate and stir at 1:00, around 3:00 and 4:00.
-as mentioned, start draining at 4:00
we separated the brew - the first half to drain measures 1.22 to 
1.25%, a bit strong.
The second half measures 1.19%. The blend of the 2 was better than 
either alone.
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19) From: Yakster
I've been using a saucer and the coffee has been hot enough for me, but I
read on one of the forums (can't put my fingers on it right now) that
someone found that a certain Ziplok lid fit the CCD perfectly and they've
been using that.
Might be worth a try.
I've been using about 24 g (two AeroPress scoops) for 450 ml water for two
Bodum Pavina cups and 12 g (1 AeroPress scoop) with 225 ml water for just
myself.  I had a hard time getting the water level right for single cups
until I started using a scale, and this size yields 400 / 200 ml water for 2
/ 1 cup which perfectly fits the cups.
I had backed off on stirring, but may start stirring more.  I find the
little camping whisks perfect for sinking the grounds and also for mixing my
daughter's hot chocolate.
-Chris
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20) From: Seth Grandeau
Out of curiosity, any idea why the CCD works well with a fine-sh grind and a
4 minute steep, while the Aeropress works well with a fine-ish grind and a
20 second steep?  is it just the pressure of me pushing on the AP?
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21) From: Ira
At 09:44 AM 1/31/2010, you wrote:
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Have you ever tried a longer steep in the AP? Before I switched to 
the Clever I think I was  up to a 2 minute steep in the AP. Add 
water, stir, add more water, stir. add almost to top, put the plunger 
just in enough to hold a seal, wait awhile, press. I think the longer 
steep times improved the coffee.
Ira
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22) From: Martin Maney
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 05:52:27PM -0800, Yakster wrote:
<Snip>
I was looking around for a suitable improvised cover and tried the lid
from the 1.75 oz "snap" container (I think there's at least one other
capacity that uses the same diameter).  The rim of the CCD nestles into
the half-roll at the edge as if they had been designed to go together. :-)
<Snip>
I haven't felt any least interest in trying any of the other suitably
sized objects after a week.  I have been thinking about adding a layer
of insulation (it's pretty thin plastic, and a large exposed area). 
Oh, and right around 13 oz of water the crust tends to meet the lid,
which makes it a little messier than is quite ideal.
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encourages just glossing over, as quick as possible. The
Internet is a terrific way to look up facts and a terrible
way to get a story.  -- Clifford Stoll
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23) From: Allon Stern
On Jan 30, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Yakster wrote:
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Hot enough for you, sure, but keep in mind that the reason to cover isn't to keep the coffee hot for your cup, but rather to keep it at the right temperature for extraction. I assume you know that, but others might not, so I point it out to avoid confusion. I'm currently just using a paper plate. It steams the plate a little, but works. I need to find a better solution.
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24) From: R Nepsund
I'm using a coffee cup saucer on top of my CCD.  It's just the right size
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25) From: Martin Maney
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 05:19:48AM -0800, Allon Stern wrote:
<Snip>
My very first thought was that if we had any of those coffecup-sized
foamed plastic plates around...  But of course we didn't.  Since I got
a measurement (not considered terribly reliable) of 185 at the end of
the steeping the one time I've tried to check, I'm thinking about
adding insulation to the lid.  And, even less likely to pass from fancy
to reality any time soon, of a dripper cozy...
-- 
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and I reflect on what a truly science-fictional experience it is
to be living under an authentically illegitimate American government,
born of force and fraud.  -- Patrick Nielsen Hayden (in Starlight 3)
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26) From: Martin Maney
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 07:13:57AM -0600, Martin Maney wrote:
<Snip>
Just in case you should think I'm crazy, that should have been
1.75 *cups*.
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27) From: John M. Howison
I was assured that the CCD is Idiot-proof.  Unfortunately, I have
disproven this claim:  no matter how carefully I pour the 205 degree
water, the CCD leaks onto my countertop.  Do I need a new CCD, or a
new head?  Advice, pls.
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29) From: Edward Bourgeois
Particles of coffee can get caught in between the stopper. Especially
if your coffee bloom gets a little above the filter paper.  I just
make sure to flush that area well when rinsing with the bottom up so
that the stopper is in the open position. Also give a tap to the
stopper before  putting a new cone in just to be sure it is seated
well. The CCD isn't perfect but it is really good and well worth
dealing with the little things.
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30) From: Martin Maney
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 04:35:09PM -0400, Edward Bourgeois wrote:
<Snip>
I second all of that!  Also, there was one report in SM's forum of a
specimen which had a small bit of flashing that interfered with the
stopper seqting quite right.  Since the body is all very nearly clear
plastic, it's not easy to see something like this.
Another thing I've noticed a few times while cleaning the CCD: if you
jostle the cup-sensing bit in the bottom, you may get the whole thing
to seat on an angle, which doesn't quite seal.  Seems unlikely this
would be happening consistently, though.
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years...until people stop looking for them.  Waiting six months isn't
going to make this OS [Windows XP] safer.  -- Bruce Schneier
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31) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Hi John - It might be a little coffee or other bit of something stuck 
in the stopper, or a defect we need to replace. I have had a couple 
brews where I had some leaking, and it was always a bit of coffee 
ground. But if yours never worked it sounds like a defect of some 
kind. Take a look, and let us know. We have had very few defects, but 
I think there have been a couple instances where the stopper gets 
hung up just a little bit, but enough to leak - we'll replace that... 
Tom
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"Great coffee comes from little roasters" - Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting
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32) From: Yakster
I brew two cups with the CCD, and have noticed on occasion when moving from
one cup to another that the mechanism will tilt and not properly seat if I
don't lift straight up.  Now that I know what's happening, I don't see this
much anymore.  I take the first cup which drains in about 30 seconds and I
give the Wife the second cup that takes over two minutes to drain.
One trick I sometimes use before brewing is to pull down on the plastic disk
mechanism so that the valve is well seated.  When I turn the CCD upside
down, the valve doesn't open when seated this way.  This makes sure that
there's no minor leaking during the brew.  Once you set it on the cup, it
opens the valve no problem.
This morning I made an amazing discovery with the CCD.  I was making pain
perdu (French toast) with the remainder of a stale loaf of sourdough) and
brewing coffee at the same time and hadn't noticed that my second kitchen
timer wasn't set up correctly so after my 30 second pre-brew to allow the
Kenya to bloom I poured in the remainder of the water and stirred and
started the second timer set to count up instead of a normal four minute
countdown.  I noticed my mistake after five minutes but the coffee was much
better so I've added the extra minute to my process.
I was using the second timer yesterday for tracking my sous vide experiment
with some on-sale London broil the Wife picked up at the store... dipped my
PID's thermocouple wire in the large crock pot and cooked the vacuumed
sealed meat for a couple of hours at 140 degrees Fahrenheit and then pan
seared the outside.  It was quite good, though I don't normally eat red meat
so what do I know.  I did find that it took forever to auto-tune the PID to
a crock pot full of water, so I want to find a way to save the settings so I
can go back and forth between my espresso machine and the Sous Vide setup
without having to spend over an hour re-tuning the PID.
-Chris
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33) From: R Nepsund
I knocked mine off the counter a while back and now it has a slow leak
from some vertical cracks in the plastic.   I didn't notice them at
first.   I just put it on the plastic saucer it came with for now
eventually I'll get out some epoxy and try to seal the cracks.
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34) From: raymanowen
My PID controller maintains the current settings unless I set a new
password, but there's no library to maintain alternates. [Versatile
Temperature Controls mod N2006P and my slob SSR.]
For the price, ($30) get two more, leave them connected and tuned.  You'll
figure out more projects!  I could figure out a good temperature sensing
point in E 61 convection circuits, but why drop $2 Large on a coffee pot I'm
just going to modify and boost heater power anyway?
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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35) From: Bob Hazen
Epoxy?  You mean "food-grade epoxy?"
I'm not a chemist, so I'm out of my element here (pun intended).  I'd be 
wary of using epoxy on food/drink articles.  This last weekend I considered 
using JB Weld to repair the rack in the dishwasher, but upon reflection 
bought the replacement parts.
Just my 20 m$....
Bob

36) From: Rich
The generic "Epoxy" is actually polyester resin and a hardener.  There 
are several solvents that will weld the crack safely and you can use 
cyanoacrylate on it if you can not identify the base material to get the 
solvent.  The polyester or actual epoxy will not stay in place.  If this 
happens to be a clear hard plastic I would guess its acrylic and that 
can be bonded by either the acrillic weld solvent or thin cyanoacrylate.
Bob Hazen wrote:
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37) From: g paris
got picture?
g
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38) From: Martin Maney
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 01:32:36PM -0700, g paris wrote:
<Snip>
No pictures.  Got the original description of the "molding droplet"
that caused someone else a problem:
 http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f4&tr9-- 
"What's so funny?  That I'm sitting on a deserted beach at night,
nibbling at gourmet meals, and rereading every book I've ever loved?
Can you think of anything more worthwhile?"  -- Michael Flynn
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39) From: Yakster
I rigged up a halogen work lamp to the PID and hung it from the cabinets
above my kitchen counter, but it didn't significantly affect the heat of the
brew and I didn't get a picture.
I'm thinking striking the grounds with hotter water and more pre-heat is a
better idea.
-Chris
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