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Topic: Krups home grinder model 223 (6 msgs / 206 lines)
1) From: MSMB
At my local Habitat store I just found a vintage Krups grinder Type 223 made
in Germany. As with all such finds, I started to read about it on the web
and get the idea that it was pretty popular.  I even saw someone asking $100
for one.  This is similar to or the same as the Krups Fusion Grinder.  Here
is what it looks like:http://markshields.com/bttf-krups-coffee-grinder.shtml
I have no idea why this grinder would be of such interest to people; of
course I have hardly tried it.  The one I bought has some problems.
1.  the timer does not lock in place; you just have to hold it on for as
long as you want the machine to run.  Actually, I thought that this button
was for speeding up the movement of the burrs.  
 http://markshields.com/images/deloreans/krups/c-2001-www.markshields.com-DSC01352.JPG
2.  And the coarseness control is also locked on the last 3 settings of
course grind:http://markshields.com/images/deloreans/krups/c-2001-www.markshields.com-DSC01351.JPG 
Since I bought it for my daughter for her French Press it can still be used,
but it would be nice to be able to change  grinds.  
3.  Also, the container that holds the coffee that is supposed to fit
tightly into the grinder leaks.  If you actually hold it into the grinder
the mess is not too great though.  
Does anyone have any experience with this grinder and does anyone know of
any fixes for it?
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2) From: Doug Hoople
Looks like the buzz you're coming across on the Internet is all nostalgia,
all about the grinder's 50s-era futuristic look, and not about the grinder's
actual abilities.
I had a similar Krups grinder 3 grinders ago, back when I thought it was
enough simply that the grinder was gravity-fed and not a whirly-blade. I've
upgraded twice, and each upgrade yielded a measurable improvement in my cup.
If it's got all these issues that need to be fixed anyway, stick the thing
on the shelf in the Jetsons wing of your gallery, and get another grinder
that actually works. I wouldn'r bother fixing this one. It won't produce
decent output even if you can get it fixed.
Doug
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 6:32 PM, MSMB  wrote:
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3) From: kevin creason
People want that grinder to make their own Mr. Fusion. That's why they can
command a high dollar.
I had tons of people urging me to alter my Delorean (when I had one) with
one of those & a Flux capacitor but that was not my cup of coffee.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Doug Hoople  wrote:
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4) From: Bob Hazen
I had one just like it "back in the day."  I used it at work in the mid 
90's.  It leaked fairly badly and that plastic bin suffered from static 
cling.  The grind wasn't super great and was hard to set properly, but it 
was acceptable for drip.  Of course my taste has become pickier in the 
meantime.  I can't imagine paying $100 for one.  You might want to tear it 
down and see if you can make things work a bit better.  I bet it's chock 
full of stale coffee dust.  Also, there are supposed to be some rubbery 
things where the bin attaches.  If these are worn or missing, you will tend 
to spew coffee grounds out of it.
Good luck with it.
Bob

5) From: MSMB
I regularly use a Maestro Classic, which works just fine for my automatic
drip brewer (itself a vintage machine) and also a terrific hand grinder from
the '50s (I could never find the brand name on it).  Not sure why I ended up
with all this vintage stuff; things just worked out that way.  I used the
Krups this morning for the first time for my regular coffee, and on coarse
grind it works pretty well. One thing is that the coffee felt a little warm
when it was finished, something I never noticed with the Maestro.  I am not
honestly sure what else to look for, except an even grind and the size of
the grind that I want.  Since the timer does not work I just held the dial
until all the beans were ground.  And I held the receptacle in place and
that was not a big deal either.  There was not much mess at all; just a few
ground that got out during the grind.  The grind was pretty even and the
coffee tasted OK, but I have to admit that I am not as discriminating as
many people.  I have never made a systematic comparison of any of my
equipment, but maybe will do it now. I can't see exactly what kind of
grinder the Krups is; obviously not a normal whirly - blade grinder.

6) From: raymanowen
[the buzz... on the Internet is all nostalgia, all about the grinder's
50s-era futuristic look, and not about the grinder's actual abilities]
Q.- How many of these things could you hold in one hand at arm's length?
For the Look of the 20's, glean the Habitat store for a Kirby vacuum
cleaner. Just need the vacuum/ blower motor, the hose assembly with adapter,
and the dust bag.
Just turn it On and suck up a pre-measured quantity of beans. Even strays
that roll under stuff on the floor will self load and come out as ground
coffee. You could open the cannister under the bag and insert a coffee bag
with the open end up, so it would auto fill as it self- loads with beans.
You'd be first on your block with a self cooling grinder. Avoid the cat's
litter box and rabbit hutch. Whatever, it's up to you.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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