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Topic: 1st Roast with Hot Top (6 msgs / 101 lines)
1) From: decesarecj
?Just purchased a new?Hot Top, just purchased a sample pack from Maria's.? Ready for my 1st roast. What is the average time for a city or city plus roast?? Should I always go into the period of the 2nd crack, and for how long?? I understand different beans will very, just a starting time.? Should I always use Auto mode, with over ride, or Manual?? Just a little nervous, and don't want to screw it up...Thanks!
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Carl J
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2) From: Barry Luterman
What model?
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3) From: Mike Koenig
Start by using the auto mode until you get a feel for how it works.
Pay attention to the temperature on the display when you hit 1st and 2nd
crack.   I usually hit 1st between 10-13 minutes (using about a 250g load).
It is pretty consistent between roasts, so if you hit 1st at 390 (on the
display),  this is generally repeatable with the same bean and load. (though
I have noticed some drift as the unit ages).
I drop my heat to about 40% about 5 degrees before I expect first crack,  so
it coasts gently through 1st crack.  If I'm targeting a city roast, I try to
keep the heat low so I can go 3 minutes until the end of 1st.  For a darker
roast, I still drop the heat,  but may raise it a bit later on.  For
espresso, I try to target 5 minutes to start of 2nd (or just before).
Expect to have a bit of a learning curve, but most of my roasts, even at the
beginning, were better with the HotTop than with my previous methods
(iRoasts, and grill drum).
Enjoy your new purchase!!
--mike
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4) From: Barry Luterman
You really can't go too wrong with a Hot Top if you remain vigilant. It
fairly well stops roasting at the time you hit the eject button. It's just a
matter of your getting a feel for the machine. After that it is all smell
and sound.
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Mike Koenig  wrote:
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5) From: Jim Wilson
?Just purchased a new?Hot Top, just purchased a sample pack from Maria's.? Ready for my 1st roast. What is the average time for a city or city plus roast?? Should I always go into the period of the 2nd crack, and for how long?? I understand different beans will very, just a starting time.? Should I always use Auto mode, with over ride, or Manual?? Just a little nervous, and don't want to screw it up...Thanks!
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Carl J
~~~Carl,  I'm using a Hot Top B model (as Mickey D said-I'm lovin it)  Just roasted the 110th roast in it.  I keep a log...I'll write what beans, the weight at start of the roast, ambient temp, humidity.  On a horizontal line in my Composition Book I write out time remaining, temp, action, then notate when the first alarm rings, the time, what time remaining on the Hot Top timer for 1 st crack, 2nd alarm, 2nd crack, when I dump the roast.  Some keep notes, others don't.  I find note keeping useful
About my roasting style with the Hot Top B...For the most part I run with the default profile.  I get very good results.  Most of my roasts end up Full City or better but then I roast for espresso and find I like the taste of most beans up to 2nd crack.  You asked about City or City +.  Of course both of those roast profiles do not get into 2nd crack.  On Sweet Marias website there is a nice informative roast pictorial.  Study it.  It is roasting gospel
Don't worry about screwing up your roasts.  The old saying if first you don't succeed, try, try again applies here, but I advise you to take notes
Something else- I find I roast by ear.  I listen for 1st crack, observe the time the beans stay in that mode and how they sound as they near the end.  Then I listen very carefully for 2nd crack.  I like to get right up to the front of 2nd crack but I don't stay with it.  Keeping your roast in 2nd crack will develop an oilyness to the beans.  If you like your roast to that degree of doneness, that is fine.  You are roasting for you.  Play around with 2nd crack.  Go up to it and stop it, then on a another roast, go into it but be forewarned, staying in 2nd will get the beans dark quickly  if 2nd crack is continued for very long.  Even when I want to roast into 2nd crack, I stop it before it hits 15 seconds into it.  But again, it is something I think you need to experiment with.  Stay into 2nd crack for 30 seconds or better, and see what you end up with.  Experience will be your best teacher
One last bit of advice.  Don't let anyone tell you how to drink your coffee.  It's your coffee, find out what you like.  
Jake
Reddick Fla.
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6) From: Barry Luterman
How did your first roast turn out?
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