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Topic: MyPressi Twist review (16 msgs / 538 lines)
1) From: Steven Van Dyke
Got the new toy in today!
I kept notes while playing with it and wrote up an initial review.
Sandy, this is for you since you're the reason I got it.  Hope you 
got yours too (even if you are supposed to wait until Christmas to 
play with it).
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MyPressi Twist initial review
First thoughts:
Nice packaging - very clean and well designed.
It's heavier than I thought it would be. Feels solid.
Well thought out. I opened the box and examined everything, putting 
everything but the user manual back. Glanced through that - a couple 
of interesting bits such as the pod basket also being the single shot 
basket - you just use the regular showerhead instead of the pod one.
Now to actually read the user manual....
Manual was pretty complete and easy to read. Turns out you'd normally 
use the regular basket for a single rather than using the pod basket.
They're pretty insistent about reminding you that the system is 
pretty highly pressurized and not to open it while it's under pressure.
The cartridges are good for about eight shots - that's singles so if 
you pull doubles you'll only get four. Looks like it should be pretty simple.
Time to give it a try!
Ok, we have a Zorjirushi hot water pot so the water's covered. 
Grinder is standing by and I have everything out of the box.
First thing is to wash everything with hot water to make sure it's 
clean and ready to go. Not going to wash the cap end of the handle - 
that just holds the cartridge in place.
Little bit of 'stuff' - rubber dust I think - on the pod showerhead. 
Came right off with a rub from a paper towel. Everything's clean and dry now.
Time to re-assemble everything to make sure I'm ready to go. I'm 
using the regular showerhead so press that into place on the bottom 
of the water chamber.
When you put the bottom back on to the handle there are three locking 
tabs. The open quarter goes toward the handle and then it locks right 
into place.
I'm using the regular basket - non-pressurized since I'm grinding for 
expresso and the full-size one rather than the little pod / single one.
Quick confirmation that it drops into place (which I already knew 
since that's where it came from). Take it back out and set it on the 
counter - haven't put the coffee in it yet.
The water chamber needs to be pre-heated. A test reveals that yes, 
you can fill it and set it aside - the showerhead stays on from the 
friction fit and it has a valve that won't let the water through 
without pressure. By the time I'm ready to use it it should be up to temp.
Ok, quick review - bottom half of the ball is on, cartridge is in 
place, water chamber is warming, basket is ready for the coffee.
Time to measure out my seven grams. I've got my digital scale handy 
and a little cup. Seven grams is a bit over a tablespoon so I'm using 
that to measure. First try isn't quite enough - need a few more 
beans. Now to 'record' this measurement for later. Turns out seven 
grams is a comfortable handful for me (my hands are pretty big so 
your mileage will obviously vary). Off to the grinder!
Ground coffee into the filter basket and now a good, firm tamp...
Looks nice and even. Drop it into the handle, empty the pre-heat 
water out of the water chamber and then lock the water chamber on to 
the handle.
There's a little notch / mark on the edge of the water chamber and a 
mark on the handle to help you get it on right.
Fill the chamber with water, twist on the cap. Goes on firmly and 
feels nice and tight.
In theory all I have to do is hold it over the cup and pull the trigger....
It works!! Looks just like their video - initial drops are very dark, 
then the crema starts....
Uh oh! Make a note - coffee keeps coming out for a second or two 
after you release the trigger (of course - the pressure in the 
chamber has to go somewhere). Nothing a little careful slurping and a 
paper towel won't fix.
Pretty good shot! I'm using the pound of Black Cat Expresso 
Intelligentsia included with the unit. This is the third, it was 
roasted on the 1st - probably be even better tomorrow.
On this first try I pretty much filled the water chamber - enough for 
a double even though I was after a single. That's one reason for the overflow.
To make a single you only need to fill up part way. The water chamber 
has a 'tooth' that sticks down into the chamber and the bottom of 
that is obviously the fill point for a single. But the manual notes 
that you'll use less gas / shot if you fill the chamber (that way 
there's less compressible air to pressurize). Just need to practice a 
couple of times.
Time to clean up from this first shot. Water chamber cap comes off 
easily - pressure is fully released by the time I was cleaning up the 
overflow and trying the shot. Water chamber off - there are a few 
grounds on the showerhead, just needs a quick rinse and a wipe with a 
paper towel. Basket out and the puck knocks out nice a clean. Again a 
quick rinse / wipe and it's done. Bottom half of the ball off to 
rinse / wipe it. Handle has a spot or two of coffee so a quick rinse 
/ wipe for it. (checking) Ok, everything's done and ready to start again!
Water chamber is still hot so I'm good to go there. Pour a little 
coffee into my palm, right to the right level. Now check on the 
scale... eight grams!
How far over am I? Checking.... three beans. I'd say my hand is 
reasonably calibrated but I'll be checking later. For now let's grind 
this and go!
This time I'm trying with two cups. It feels easier holding it over 
two cups - the ones I'm using are much wider than the spouts. No 
problems with overflow this time - in fact I run out of water before 
both cups are full - not sure I had the chamber completely full 
and/or the exact volume for these cups.
This shot's a little weak - I just used the seven grams for a single 
but pulled through the water for a double. Sure, it's in two cups but 
that's not a problem. It's still pretty good - probably as good as 
you'd get at a lot of places while traveling and this is only my 
second try with the Twist.
Clean everything up and one more try tonight.
This time I'm going to fill the basket - twenty-one grams. Using my 
now-calibrated hand with the scale to check. First handful - seven grams!
Second handful added and I'm at... fourteen! Going for three... 
twenty-one! Ha! Told you I'd calibrated my hand.
This is going to be slightly trickier - loose it won't fit in the 
basket. Got most of it in, now a little careful tamp and I've got 
room for the rest.
There - all done and only a couple of specks on the counter.
Fill the water chamber up all the way again, set over the two cups 
and pull the trigger.
This time when the water ran out one cup was about twice as full as 
the other - must have had it tilted to one side. This is where those 
Bodum Pavina cups they use on the MyPressi site will come in handy. 
The ones I'm using tonight are opaque.
Tastes pretty good - I'm starting to get the hang of this, but I'd 
better stop for the night or it'll keep me up.
Time to clean up and put away. The travel bag it comes with is nice. 
First I was just putting things in it but I don't like the feel of that.
The O-ring kit is in a nice little recloseable bag and I'm going to 
our massive stock to get some more. One snack size bag neatly holds 
the pod basket, pod showerhead, and pressurized basket. Another has 
more than enough room for the other three cartridges. Put those in 
the bag, add the tamper and the coaster. Everything else is 
re-assembled into one piece.
Hmmmm... one possible flaw - not sure I want to put the unit in the 
bag while it's 'loaded' with a pressurized cartridge - be pretty easy 
for that trigger to get pressed. Suggestion for the MyPressi folks - 
how about a 'safety ring' to snap over the handle and protect the 
trigger? Doesn't matter for flying because you don't want a cartridge 
in the unit when flying but I like to drive places. For now I'm 
leaving the unit out of the bag - it's nice to look at anyway.
So, conclusions?
First impressions still hold - very nicely designed unit. Just 
looking at it you'd think it'd been out for years based on how 
well-polished all the graphics and packaging are. It's surprisingly 
heavy - these days most things that look this sleek are pretty 
lightly built but this is nice and solid.
Easy to use, seems to do a good job. I'm planning to take it to work 
in the next few days. Got out my Zass Turkish grinder, the coffee 
maker dispenses pretty good hot water. I've got my calibrated hand 
but I think I'll dig out my pennyweight scale and put it in a small 
baggie so I can check my measurement if I want to.
Going over it in my head... Ah! Need an expresso cup - I've got some 
small steel cups about shot glass size - they'll travel well. Let's 
go over the sequence some more...
1) At my desk get everything out.
2) Measure and grind the coffee, load the basket, tamp.
3) Assemble it and head to the break room - don't forget to take the 
coaster and cup.
4) In the break room take the water chamber off and fill it up for 
the pre-heat. Should pre-heat the cup too. Lay out a paper towel or 
two to be a clean spot for things to lay on.
5) Empty out the pre-heat water, put the water chamber on and fill.
6) Pull the shot, remembering to stop a bit BEFORE the cup is full.
7) Stand the unit on the coaster and let it set for a bit (20 - 30 seconds).
8) Open the water chamber and empty it, take it off and clean the shower head.
9) Take out the basket and knock out the puck. Clean that and the 
handle, re-assemble and I'm ready to go back to my desk - or I can 
drink the shot here if a co-worker wasn't standing by to suck it down.
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2) From: Sandy Andina
Just got mine today too, Steven; and I'm glad it works really well for you. Haven't had the chance to try it, since my LaCora is fired up on the counter; I would be a bit nervous about flying with it, even empty, because airlines don't allow pressurized gas canisters (even those little cartridges) in carry-on OR checked bags; any place I could buy cartridges would, I reason, have some pretty decent espresso bars.  So mine's going with me when I drive for business trips or short getaways.  I normally use the clear Pavinas for shots at home but have a couple of stainless steel cups I'd bought for that All-Clad manual lever machine (the one that broke so easily) with which I used to fly.  Now, if I know my motel room has a fridge, I might buy some milk and bring along my little Aerolatte frother as well.
On Dec 3, 2009, at 9:37 PM, Steven Van Dyke wrote:
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Peace & song, 
Sandy 
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3) From: Yakster
There was an interesting reply by MyPressi on temp control on Home-Barista:http://www.home-barista.com/knockbox/mypressi-twist-t10686-60.html#p147613Basically, MyPressi recommends water off the boil and found that the
Zojirushis don't keep the water hot enough.
Looks like they're monitoring the coffee forums to provide pointers and make
sure early issues are addressed... smart.
-Chris
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4) From: Justin Schwarz
On Dec 3, 2009, at 7:37 PM, Steven Van Dyke wrote:
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Great review, please spell check.
Please don't take offense, just a pet peeve.
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5) From: Steven Van Dyke
Glad you got yours - I'd hate to have you still waiting while I enjoy mine.
For trips where you fly try calling the hotel before you leave - they 
might be able to find you the one or two cartridges you'd need while there.
At 09:56 PM 12/3/2009, you wrote:
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6) From: Steven Van Dyke
Oh sure!
OpenOffice complains about "everything's" but it's perfectly happy 
with the one typo guaranteed to stand out in this list.
That's what happens when you type up your notes while watching TV.
At 10:25 PM 12/3/2009, you wrote:
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Enjoy!
Steve:->
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7) From: Captain CowPie
Great review Steven! Makes me want to get mine here just that much more. Sounds like it will be a welcome addition to my coffee arsenal.
Vince
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On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Steven Van Dyke wrote:
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8) From: Bonnie Polkinghorn
It seems that a lot of spell checkers have the default option to ignore
items that start with capital letters.
Your notes were fantastic.  If I every buy one, I will most definitely refer
back to your notes.  Thank you,
-Bonnie P.
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9) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 08:11 AM 12/4/2009, you wrote:
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Glad you guys like the review - I so seldom am an early adopter on 
things related to this list it feels good to be able to pay back a bit.
Usually I *learn* about things from this list and then join 
in.  Timing just worked out for me to be in on the ground floor on this one.
That 'second look' link is great - thanks!
Tonight I'm going to try boiling water (and more pre-heat based on 
their results) and do a naked shot or two.
Enjoy!
Steve:->
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10) From: Sandy Andina
Thanks for the tip--I'll make sure the concierge earns his/her keep!  ;)
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Peace & song, 
Sandy 
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11) From: Dave Bush
I think the MyPressi looks clever and all, but how practical is it for travel? Seems that without bringing along a good espresso grinder you're just as well off at the local coffee shop. For that reason, an AP seems like a better traveling companion. Curious what others think...
Dave
 
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12) From: Yakster
It really depends.
My "good espresso grinder" happens to be a very portable ceramic bur hand
grinder that I take camping with the AeroPress and use at home with
espresso.
For me, it would be a step up from where I currently was, but I got caught
by the lure of the lever espresso machines and pulled the trigger on a La
Peppina spring lever machine, so no more budget to think about a Twist this
year.  I guess my Twist plans took a sudden twist [groan].
Speaking of espresso grinders, Baratza is introducing a new model next year,
the Virtuoso Preciso which is basically a Virtuoso with a micro adjustment.
I'll be interested in the reviews on this.
Thread here:http://www.home-barista.com/grinders/new-baratza-grinder-virtuoso-preciso-275-t12622.html-Chris
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13) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 01:15 PM 12/4/2009, you wrote:
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Vince,
My normal travel kit is a small suitcase converted to 'coffee 
world'.  I took one of those 1" green foam mats they sell for camping 
and cut it up. One section to line the bottom, a strip to go around 
the outside, and additional strips to make compartments. It's a 
low-stress arrangement so it's held together wth duct tape.
It holds a small Bodum hot water pot, some coffee, a couple of 
stainless steel travel mugs, and the good bits - currently my 
AeroPress and a Zass Turkish grinder.  I don't know how I'll fit the 
MyPressi into it, but I can do a smaller kit based around it.  Just 
need a little hand grinder, some durable espresso cups, and maybe a 
small scale.  Should all fit in something like a cosmetic case.
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14) From: Sandy Andina
I travel with a Zass Turkish. Grinds very fine.
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Sandy Andina
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15) From: Yakster
So, all you TWISTed, early adopters, is it all that and a bag of chips?  I'm
talking about the MyPressi Twist that I was seriously considering until I
just had to hit the Buy It Now button on that La Peppina.  I must say, it's
getting a lot of buzz on the coffee forums.  Anyone using it as their
primary machine?
As for me, I'm starting to get my technique down for the La Peppina and have
even managed to pull two drinkable 7g singles (with a lot fewer pre-infusion
pumps) where this feat was eluding me completely last week.  The Wife called
for a cappuccino this morning, so I got out the funny, funky ventilator cap
and frothed up some soy to go with a double.  Now that I'm starting to get
my routine down, I'm no longer worrying that I passed up the Twist for this.
-Chris
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16) From: Steven Van Dyke
At 06:27 PM 12/16/2009, you wrote:
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I'm still not an espresso guy but I'm pretty happy with my Twist.
I've been following the Second Look thread over on the Home Barista 
forums and they're also surprised by how well it works.
Their tests indicate that the temperatures are too low but their 
blind taste tests say the results are on target - in fact, in their 
final test it beat the high-dollar pro machine 3 out of 3.
I'm using what seems like the current best practices:
Get a grind dialed in (how well depends on how exacting your standards are).
Boil up some water and fill the water chamber with the chamber on the 
ring - basically take out the basket and put the chamber back on.
Let the system pre-heat for a couple of minutes while you get 
everything else ready.
Once you're ready to go with your coffee all measured, ground, and 
tamped re-boil your water (it should be close so it'll be quick).
Dump the water in the chamber out and refill with fresh boiling 
water.  Put the filter basket in place and put the water chamber back in.
Dump your pre-heat water out of the cup (unless you were pre-heating 
some other way) and pull the shot.
Seems to work best using about 15 - 20 grams in the regular (double) 
basket and I like to fill the chamber which gives enough water for a double.
You'll quickly be able to pull 'naked' shots - just remove the bottom 
dome because it's really just a catcher / splitter.
I still have lots of playing - I mean TESTING to do but as I said, 
I'm pretty happy with it.
For travel I'll make a smaller version of my 'coffee world' travel 
kit.  I'll find a suitable size bag and use a foam pad to pad the 
bottom, around the sides, and make compartments.
I'll be carrying the Twist, some cartridges (I'm thinking of taking a 
block and punching / drilling holes to hold them), two of Tom's 
stainless steel espresso cups (bought one to check it out - they're cool!),
a hand grinder already set in the espresso range, the various Twist 
accessory bits, a regular size coffee cup (for Americanos - probably 
the matching ss cup from Tom), some cleaning supplies (those small
rolls of paper towels are great), space for fresh roasted coffee, a 
small hot water pot, and what ever else I think of.  Should be around 
briefcase size I'm thinking.
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