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Topic: Thanks for an honest answer (10 msgs / 249 lines)
1) From: decesarecj
I've been in the coffee business for 25 years, but never in production, or manufacturing..These people on the site are whacked. You are about the only person who had a decent answer, so I wanted to thank you for that. If these other so called home roasters, think they really know coffee, they need to get a life.
 I'm also the one in looking to purchase a 1 kilo roaster for $7,500.00. It seems like everyone else has something better than their home oven or some type of a hot gun, get a life.  Thank you again for a good and honest answer. Greatly appreciated.
 
Carl De Cesare
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2) From: Joseph Robertson
Who had the honest answer?
I know we all here on the list want to be honest and have sincere answers.
What kind of roaster or make are you looking at.
JoeR
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:14 PM,  wrote:
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3) From: Slinkster
decesarecj wrote:
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I'm using a glorified hot air popper to roast my coffee.  It is in my 
estimate a "better" device for roasting coffee than either my oven or a 
hot glue gun. 
Where can I get a life, please?
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4) From: denis bordeleau
  Hi Slinkster,                    =
         First time I have ever heard about roasting with a=
 hot glue gun.  When did you get first crack?......and did you go all the=
 way along to the oily finish?     And, by the way, what is the cre=
ma in an espresso shot made of?   Is it a kind of emulsion with the cof=
fee oil and the 198 degrees or about that water . emulsion reaction  (kin=
d of mayonnaise).   Salutations        Denis
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De: Slinkster 
Objet: Re: [Homeroast] Thanks for an honest answer
À: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this list=
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Date: mardi 8 Décembre 2009, 21 h 12
decesarecj wrote:
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some type of a hot gun, get a life.  Thank you again for a good and hones=
t answer. Greatly appreciated.
I'm using a glorified hot air popper to roast my coffee.  It is in my est=
imate a "better" device for roasting coffee than either my oven or a hot gl=
ue gun. =
Where can I get a life, please?
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5) From: Allon Stern
On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:49 PM, denis bordeleau wrote:
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Well, see, that's the thing, after it cracks, you end up with the beans glued back together again. Then you can crack it again. And again. I think most beans do well with at least four cracks, but no more than eight.
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6) From: Slinkster
denis bordeleau wrote:
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Hot glue gun roasting is an Extreme Crafting Sport.  Additional 
equipment includes fingertip hot pads and a pair of needlenoze pliers.  
While your partner uses the high-temp hot glue gun to assemble party 
favors you, the coffee roaster, must anticipate your partner's moves so 
as to keep a bean in contact with the hot nozzle of the glue gun.  Use 
pliers to reposition the bean, and press it to the nozzle with your hot 
pad-clad fingertip.  After a few hours (days?) you might have enough 
beans to make a double something.
As for your other question you'll need to ask somebody with much more 
experience of coffee than I have.  I merely have been drinking the stuff 
for 25 years and roasting for five.
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7) From: Jack M. Rogers
You're quite welcome.  What did I do?
Jack

8) From: Andy Thomas
You're welcome.
From: "decesarecj" 
To: Homeroast
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 4:14:51 PM
Subject: [Homeroast] Thanks for an honest answer
I've been in the coffee business for 25 years, but never in production, or =
manufacturing..These people on the site are whacked. You are about the only=
 person who had a decent answer, so I wanted to thank you for that. If thes=
e other so called home roasters, think they really know coffee, they need t=
o get a life.
I'm also the one in looking to purchase a 1 kilo roaster for $7,500.00. It =
seems like everyone else has something better than their home oven or some =
type of a hot gun, get a life.  Thank you again for a good and honest ans=
wer. Greatly appreciated.
Carl De Cesare
Decesarecj
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9) From: Les
Roasting is a journey.  I was a dedicated modified poppery roaster for
18 years.  I was an arrogant smug roaster.  After 18 years, I bought a
Hearthware roaster, and was disappointed with the results.  I then
moved to a RK drum.  I have roasted with the HeatGun - Dog bowl
method, and I still enjoy roasting over an open fire with my Androck
Popcorn popper.  I have roasted with many different commercial home
roasters, and some home-made jobs.  A good friend, Jeff dropped by
with a one pound San Franciscan for a day of roasting.  At this time I
was using my Rk and a Behmor.  I was hooked!  The reason, the power
and stability of the small commercial roaster.  This lead me to buy a
USRC one pound roaster after a lot of research.  About the same time,
Mike McKoffee had bought his roaster from USRC, and knowing his high
standards, I was confident I was getting a good roaster.  I have been
very happy with my small drum roaster.  What it brings to the game is
consistency.  Is it better?  I don't know how you define better?  I
can roast great coffee in many different roasters.  You can too.
However, I can roast the same profile within one degree and 15 seconds
for the whole roast over and over and over again.  That is what a
small commercial roaster can do for you.  Nothing more, nothing less.
I can burn or bake a roast just as good with the USRC.  It does not
roast for you.  You still have to develop good profiles for your
beans.  I think that anyone can do good roasts without spending a lot
of money on a roaster.  However, I enjoy drinking good coffee more
than slaving over the roaster. I enjoy roasting more now, but it isn't
the challenge that it used to be.  Playing with nuances is more fun.
This is the big advantage.  If you don't have one, don't think for a
minute that you can't achieve awesome coffee, you can.  Who knows,
maybe if my profiles were a little more unstable, I would get to the
allusive "perfect roast" once in a while.  So my advice is enjoy what
you have and the coffee you make.  Upgrade if you want, but don't
think you are producing swill if you don't have a small commercial
roaster.
Les
Les
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Jack M. Rogers  wrote:
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r manufacturing..These people on the site are whacked. You are about the on=
ly person who had a decent answer, so I wanted to thank you for that. If th=
ese other so called home roasters, think they really know coffee, they need=
 to get a life.
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. It seems like everyone else has something better than their home oven or =
some type of a hot gun, get a life.  Thank you again for a good and hones=
t answer. Greatly appreciated.
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10) From: Doug Hoople
Great summary, Les. I don't think it can be improved upon!
Doug
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