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Topic: Behmor - new chaff tray (14 msgs / 317 lines)
1) From: Dave Huddle
I wonder if anyone else has the same problem as I have.
 I have a 2yr old Behmor (works fine after 230+ runs).   After I
bought it I got the smaller mesh roasting drum, then last month got
the new style chaff tray.   The new tray works fine with the original
wider mesh drum, but will not work with the small mesh drum.   It
interferes with the drum rotation - seems to hang up on the clasp
holding the drum shut.   I've tried moving the tray but haven't found
a position where it will work with the small mesh drum.
I reckon I'll contact Joe next week, but I thought I'd see if anyone
else has the same problem.
Dave
Westerville, OH
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2) From: Frank Awbrey
Dave, have you found the answer, yet? Mine did the same thing, I think, as
to what you are describing. What I found (if I remember correctly), is that
the inside of the chaff tray's "upright" side (the inside of the
upright where the handle is) has a moveable "screen" that just pivots a
little. Mine was pivoted out towards the basket, so that when the basket
rotated, it (clasp) was hitting the screen and making the basket "jump". To
fix it, just swing/push or pivot that screen back in so that it is more
parallel to the side and the bottom of the screen will then clear the
basket.
(hope I have explained/described it to where you can understand)
If that's not it, then I can't help you. Sorry.
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3) From: Yakster
I don't have the new tray, but there's a doc on the behmor site about
usage. I think you flip it up for cleaning and down for roasting.
-Chris
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4) From: Rich
Surely, you are not suggesting that anyone should read and understand 
the instructions before using a new appliance are you?  That's heresy!http://behmor.com/pdf/BT1000NV_Instructions_and_placementEnhanced_B_and_W_copy_version.pdfMinor unauthorized mechanical realignment may be required to allow 
proper operation...
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5) From: Dave Huddle
As Rich suggested  'Minor unauthorized mechanical realignment may be
required to allow proper operation...'
I 'presuaded' the offending vane to be a tad further from the drum and
'persuaded' the latch to be a tad closer to the axis of the drum.
The vane isn't exactly straight now, but you would have to look at it
very closely to see that.    The drum rotates freely now - but because
of the greater mass and heat capacity of the new chaff tray, I'll have
to increase roast times.
The increased bean visibility is an advantage of the new chaff tray.
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6) From: Rich
You are loosing a great deal of radiant energy through the glass that is 
no longer faced by a highly reflective surface.  That is the major loss 
path.  The low profile chaff tray merely slows down the beginning of the 
temperature ramp. It is impacting the rate of change in temperature. The 
galas is a continuous loss.
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7) From: Yakster
I saw someone had covered most of their glass with high temp metallic tape
(leaving a small viewing window) to help prevent heat loss... back in the
days where there was no new chaff tray.
I had thought of getting some 3M High Temperature Flue Tape, stopped by an
Ace Hardware but they were out.http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004Z4DS/-Chris
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8) From: Rich
The inside of the roaster is 480F.  Cut a piece of nice bright shiny 
stainless steel shim stock and fit it in there to block 75% of the 
glass.  Make the height of your piece about 5% grater than the measured 
height and it will spring into place and not fallout.
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9) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
I am wondering if it may just be better to use the old chaff collector. I don't see any real advantage to the low profile one. True the collector no longer obscures the view of the beans but is it really worth it?
dave
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10) From: Rich
Well, it captures almost all of the chaff.  Adds maybe 60 seconds max to 
the total roast time.  Slightly lengthens the time to temperature, 
reduces the slope of, the beginning of the the ramp.  Improves 
visibility.  Requires increased mechanical dexterity to remove and 
replace.  Has more moving parts.  Recommend blocking all but 2" of the 
left hand end of the window.  Folded aluminum foil will work fine as a 
window block.
If you use the high temperature tape that Yakster mentioned it will not 
come back off once applied without a great deal of bad language.  There 
is also a mask on the inside of the glass that will add to the 
difficulty of removal.
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11) From: Yakster
I'll take back my recommendation that I passed along, then.
One advantage I heard is that with the airflow change it's possible to
open the door in the cool cycle (maybe after a minute) for more rapid
cooling with the chaff getting trapped. I've gimmicked my own cooling
tricks.
-Chris
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12) From: Ray Tolar
I have been thinking the same thing better view would be nice, but I go by
sound and smell  now anyway with great results so I will wait.  Seems like
all have reported longer roast times.  Think I will save the money as a new
grinder is in the works. HOOKED and loving every drop.   Ray
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13) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
I have found:
1) it adds considerable more than a minute for me. At least 2 minutes (not counting the 1 min pre-heat with new collector) for 227grams (1/2 Lb) of Ethiopia Gr.3 Dry Process Yirga Cheffe on P1 setting
2) It is harder to reove all the chaff from the new collector. 
3) I don't notice it actually catching substantially more of the chaff than the original.
I have no problem getting it in or out.
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14) From: Christine Heinsohn
Would some please describe how to do the pre heat in the behmor?


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