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Topic: Silvia repair options (9 msgs / 167 lines)
1) From: John Crippen
Good morning,
I just moved from south of El Paso, TX to Arkansas.  In transit, I left Miss
Silvia out in the back of my car overnight, and it was sub-freezing that
night.  I tried to use her for the first time this morning.  After turning
her on to heat up, I walked out of the room.  A few minutes later I heard
the ground fault indicator throw in the kitchen.  Found water all over the
counter.  After cleaning that up and resetting the GVI, I tried using Miss
Silvia, and water just runs out of the back where it normally drains (may be
running out somewhere else, I have not opened it up yet).  No water comes
out of the screen or out of the steam wand when I tried that.  I suspect
that frozen water in the pipes burst the three-way valve and maybe some
other pipes and stuff.  I fear to look inside.
What's the call on sending Miss Silvia to an authorized Rancilio repair
center (none near Hot Springs, Arkansas that I can find), vs. finding a
local repairman to look her over?  Also, in the future, how can I completely
blow out all the water from Miss Silvia (or her replacement........) so that
this does not happen again on the next part of my road trip north next
month?
Sadly,.
Crippen
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2) From: Jim Gundlach
Crippen,
I used to have a Silvia that I thought the boiler was broken on and I  
went ahead and ordered a new boiler.  When I opened it up to install  
the new boiler I saw a resettable safety switch that I pushed and when  
I turned it on it worked fine.  Anyway I still have the replacement  
boiler, with gasket, and if we can make sure it is the right one, I'll  
send it to you.  I would like to be reimbursed for shipping though.  I  
no longer have access to the Silvia to see if I have the same model,  
it was stolen from my daughter's moving van.
        pecan jim
On Jan 11, 2010, at 5:47 AM, John Crippen wrote:
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3) From: slinkster
Silvia isn't that complicated inside.  Pull off the skin, turn her on 
and see where the water is escaping.  If you need to order parts I'd 
recommend usinghttp://www.espressoparts.com;the website has on it 
every part for a Silvia and if you can't figure out what a part is 
called you can phone the parts department for help.  You'll need 
assorted adjustable wrenches, and both cross-tipped and blade-tipped 
screwdrivers, plus some scotch tape so you can label the different 
electrical connections.
I'm not sure how to drain the old girl 100%, maybe someone else has an 
idea on that.
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4) From: Ira
At 08:26 AM 1/11/2010, you wrote:
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You can also fill them with Vodka if you're worried about freezing.
Ira
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5) From: Yakster
This thread on H-B has links to instructions for draining and shipping a
Silvia in the winter:http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-machines/shipping-rancilio-silvia-t1100.html-Chris
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6) From: raymanowen
"...fill them with Vodka if you're worried about freezing."
Will the alcohol in Vodka tend to bother the pump and valve seals, etc.,
that normally only see water?
At any rate, winterizing the Silvia might require Espresso Vodka, like Sarah
got for me a couple of years ago. Or, you might get some propylene
glycol-based RV water system antifreeze.
Just fill the reservoir with the winterizer, pump it through the wands and
group without letting the boiler catch up to its normal temperature.
Cheers, Mabuhay, Iechyd da -RayO, aka Opa!
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7) From: Rich
Ethanol (ethel alcohol) is what is in gasoline (E-85) and it does a bang 
up job of ruining many different plastics and elastomers.  I would not 
use vodka for antifreeze in Silvia.  Place antifreeze in operator instead.
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8) From: Ryan M. Ward
Could you imagine what your first pitcher of steamed milk would look like? Hmmmm.... Green milky foam!
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9) From: Allon Stern
On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:12 AM, Ryan M. Ward wrote:
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Ah, flashbacks of when my 1993 Saturn SL1 with 142,000 miles on it cracked a camshaft bearing surface and leaked oil into the coolant.
I opted to repair the car, and it was one of the best choices I've made - it lasted well over 200,000 miles, and since I also had them replace the rings and bearings, I got my mileage back; it was getting around 29mpg, boosted it up to around 40mpg. The savings in gas paid for the cost of the repairs in short order. And it got better performance too.
I'd imagine the economics of rebuilding an espresso machine are somewhat different from rebuilding an engine, especially if you have someone else doing the work for you. OTOH, the economics of making your own espresso and roasting your own coffee, versus buying premade/roasted, are pretty apparent to us - otherwise we wouldn't be here. Price/performance, you just can't beat it.
So, how much DOES an espresso machine rebuild typically cost, for a single group commercial machine?
Let's say, a Rancilio S24....
-
allon
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