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Topic: Water retained in the portafilter **Followup** (4 msgs / 83 lines)
1) From: michael brown
Calibrated the grinder last night to grind finer.  First shot this morning i went as fine as it would go with one tamp.  Well actually it was two.  i'm using a 52mm Tamp that still has a lot of wiggle room so i tamped, knocked the grinds off the side of the PF and tamped again.  I contacted several websites who said a 52 with a little wiggle room would be fine...i thought it should be a snug fit, but anyway.  Drip drip drip.  Too fine!?!?  
Second shot, two clicks courser, same tamping style/technique.  AMAZING SHOT.  Might be the first time i've actually got a amber, dark brown crema.  i went 25seconds and it was a beauty!  So thanks for all the tips and tricks.  All the way from unpressurizing the PF to calibrating the grinder, to the "sneeze" affect of the Estro.  Great start to the day.
Michael B
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2) From: Yakster
Michael B,
Great news on the espresso.  What did you pull and how did it taste?
My pulls of Liquid Amber this weekend were great, but I stalled out my Vac
Pot both times I tried to brew a pot of Yemen / Sulawesi blend that I'd
roasted.  Oh well.
As for the tamper, I was using a 49 mm tamper for a while after I changed to
a 53 mm basket (fit the machine better without getting stuck on the gasket)
and it was no problem.  You can use a NSEW or Staub tamp technique where you
push down on the North, South, East, then West corner of the basket after
the main tamp in the center.  This page talks about tamping,http://coffeegeek.com/opinions/coffeeatthemoment/10-08-2006,but I'm of the
opinion that the grind, dose, distribution and leveling are more critical
then the tamp, and especially with my lever machine.
-Chris
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:10 AM, michael brown  wrote:
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3) From: michael brown
hmmmm thanks for the tip.  I "blended by the seat of my pants" two handfulls of Brazil Dattera, and one hand full of Guatemala Antigua, then used my finger to stir it in the hopper.  Very scientific huh?  Incredibly smooth.  I'm still of the opinion that a good crema tastes wonderful despite other's opinion that crema tastes like much and messes up the shot.  The crema was smooth and semi-sweet and the rest of the shot had a light mouthfeel but def brazil base.  Brazil was roasted about 5-10 seconds into 2C and Guat dumped right at the start of 2C.
But yeah this is my second tamp i've bought trying to find the right fit.  I've emailed Seattle Coffee Gear, Espresso parts, and even Saeco to see what size PF came in the Estro machines.  They all said, i dunno maybe a 53, but you should be fine with a 52, even though i told them i wasn't happy with a 52 cause it had way too much wiggle room.  But i'll try the NSEW idea, thanks for the idea.
Michael B
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4) From: silas coelho
Michael B
I got some Brazil Daterra from a friend of my, but roasted at origin. I
never found any place here in USA which I can buy green Daterra? Any
reccomendation?
Grato
Silas
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2010/1/25 michael brown 
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