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Topic: NY Times Article on the best coffee in New York (13 msgs / 260 lines)
1) From: Mike Davis
I don't know how long this link will be active, but there is a nice 
article in this morning's NY Times about good coffee in NY City.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/10/dining/10coffee.html?th&emc=thIf the link fails, go to the Dining and Wine section for today 
3/10/2010.  It's not homeroast news, but it does bypass the Charbuck's 
crowd.
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2) From: Michael Irrera
I was just in Culture in Midtown, and they were all abuzz with the article.  
Blue Bottle's much anticipated opening in Williamsburg is, I believe, today.  The Japanese slow-drip iced coffee setup they have is impressive looking, if nothing else.
I've been having coffee all around town for the past couple of months, and the scene is, as the article states, substantially different than it was a couple of years ago.  
The map in that article is pretty handy, too.
-AdkMike
 
On Wednesday, March 10, 2010, at 05:56AM, "Mike Davis"  wrote:
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3) From: g paris
hey thanks Mike!
ginny
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4) From: Derek Bradford
This line from the article caught my eye:  "...Today, most of the chains use
about seven grams of ground coffee for a two-ounce shot."
Is this true?  If so, I've missed a memo.  Anyone?
--Derek
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5) From: John A C Despres
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use
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Amazing... Isn't that about 25%? Talk about saving money... Gotta make those
cheap beans last longer...
John
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6) From: Derek Bradford
I honestly thought they were at least using the proper amount of coffee.
Interesting.
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7) From: miKe mcKoffee
Of course remember, that article was written by a writer and may well have
misstated misunderstood what he was told. And told exactly what by whom?
He's not someone working or representing one of said chains. I would it no
way take that statement as fact.
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8) From: Joseph Robertson
Sooo Sad John,
I'm sooo not a chain. Weak coffee is bad, chain or not.
True we all need to make $, but where do you stop. Very soon it's not about
good coffee but even before that it's not about the only element in coffee
that matters, you and me, the people and the relationships.
I stereotype and generalize when I say, I like to call it "Corporate Coffee"
because corporate is mostly about $'s and how much the corporate officers
get when we do this or do that with the business. I have not read the
articule yet. I hope something positive was mentioned.
Until then as least we know when we roast Tom and Maria's beans we can drink
and taste the best coffee possible.
Joseph
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9) From: Joseph Robertson
Most do not know how much should go into a pf basket for a "proper" shot.
Lack of knowledge and education about this is how news and articles can be
misleading in a big way.
Joseph
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10) From: Yakster
That's great mainstream press!
For a less mainstream view of NY Coffee, you can go to a recent article on
this coffee blog: http://twitchy.org/?pD2.I haven't compared the two.
-Chris
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11) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Just another ridiculous NYT article on coffee. I mean, they all have 
something good in them, but along with a lot of obvious 
misstatements, and omissions. Like you guys already pointed out, how 
can you write an article about good coffee in NY citing coffee facts 
that, if you use them, produce lousy coffee? Anyway, Read the 
comments - I would agree that skipping Gorilla and skipping Orens 
Daily Roast is lame, 2 real NYC roasters and not imports. These 
articles always act as though something new has just happened, or 
coffee has been rediscovered like, uh, yesterday. Did you see the 
pour-over article a few weeks ago? Gee, who ever thought of pouring 
hot water over coffee before? The real story in pour over is 40 years 
old, and goes by the name "Chemex"
The decaf article is equally odd, but at least has some factoids in 
it. Was just a tiny hair peeved that the writer states how Jeremy 
found this great coffee in Nyeri and had it decafed. I did, it's SM 
coffee, we put it together in cupping and we sent it to be 
decaffeinated - we sold some to four barrel. Jeremy actually told the 
writer that, but they omit it. Whatever ... the main point should 
have been that some people are selecting their own lots and sending 
them to decaf, rather than buying it off a brokers offer sheet. 
Importers have started sending all their coffees for decaf straight 
from origin to save cost, so they are not lots they really preselect 
for quality, then choose to decaf. That's one notch above the old 
decaf system where everyone bought stocklots that the decaf plant 
would buy, and were really lousy coffee, but it's not what it could 
be. Taste our Kenya decaf and tell me it isn't amazing - I am really 
proud of the decafs we are sending. In fact we have 3 new custom 
decaf lots coming back soon...
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12) From: Joseph Robertson
Tom,
Thanks for the incite and comments on this coffee news clip.
Especially what is up with decaf these days.
JR
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13) From: raymanowen
"I don't know how long this link will be active..."
Who knows? I hear they're insolvent now, If their march to total insolvency
parallels their editorial reliability, they hold the keys to their own
demise.
Sadly, "I read it in the news" is as credible as "I read it on the
internet," except that a congruence of fact can be established in minutes
online, while the printed page suffers from its rarely-retracted editorial
spin.
People that single-sourced their news used to believe the earth was flat...
If you believe all the news stories from a single source, hey, I'm a Realtor
and...
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
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