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Topic: [homeroast]Tom, (14 msgs / 353 lines)
1) From: Edward Bourgeois
This was the session description.
***"The Single Serve Market :: Batch brewing, which defined brewed
coffee preparation for decades, is being challenged in both the mass
market and high-end specialty by a proliferation of new technologies
and a revival of old favorites. The advent of the K-cup®, the Clover®,
soluble innovations in Starbucks’ VIA™, the revival of Melitta® and
Chemex® pourover methods, all point to an exciting, paradigm-shifting
phenomenon and this two-part session will explore how brewing to
order, by the cup, is changing every part of the coffee business.
Session one will look at innovations like K-Cup®, Nespresso®, and VIA=
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and how they’re making huge inroads into the at-home coffee
marketplace. Is this simply adding dimension to the at-home coffee
marketplace, or is this a microwaveable-popcorn style paradigm
shifter? We’ll be addressing these issues along with insiders in the
mass-market single cup brewing industry, evaluating consumption
trends, supply issues, and quality developments.
Session two will look at how cutting-edge, high-end coffee bars have
embraced single serve coffee preparations like the Clover®, siphon
bar, pourover bar, and other by-the-cup brewing systems. How are these
developments transforming the consumer experience of specialty coffee?
Are these workable ways to run a business, or just a good show? Is
this a fad, or is “brewing by the cup” here to stay? Join leaders in
the brew-by-the-cup retail movement in discussing and demonstrating
the mechanics of this transformation to the coffee retail
environment."***
The whole K-cups, Pods, Via thing is really spooky. And it's catching
on in my area. Green Mt. is pushing the K-cups hard in the northeast
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2) From: Sandy Andina
Well, I must confess we (and even I) drink K-cups at our house. But the gre=
at thing is the adaptor that lets me enjoy my homeroast as a single serving=
 at optimal temp, minimal cleanup, and not as much fuss as other method.
The Via stuff is pretty awful, though. And the Senseo adaptors result in th=
e same weak, small, tepid cup that the pods produce--only they taste better=
 than the pods.
Ain't nothing like the real thing, though, for 'spro or a full pot.
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3) From: Sheila Quinn
Not so! I have a Senseo with a pod adapter, and it makes a potent brew 
in a decent-size cup.
The machines themselves aren't consistent in their brewing temps, so 
that could be why so many people have had bad experiences with it. I 
bought another Senseo as a back-up machine at a thrift store, but I 
wasn't happy with that one; its brewing temperature isn't hot enough.
My main one does a great job, though.
Sheila
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4) From: Sheila Quinn
I meant the adapter to use my own coffee, not the pods. Their pods are 
gross!
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5) From: Edward Bourgeois
:-(
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6) From: miKe mcKoffee
Instant any form or brand of coffee forget it. However, tried a Nespresso
shot while at Kitchen Kaboodle about six months ago and it actually wasn't
foul and was marginally drinkable straight up. For the average Joe Mug who
doesn't have the desire to go through the time, expense and effort of
becoming a real home barista they are a decent way to go. Haven't tried the
K-Cups.
What really gets my craw is Charbucks now doing pour-over bar coffee as if
it's something they invented while in reality they're copying high end
coffeehouses they've been loosing market share to. And using crap mediocre
coffee at best touting it as Artisinal.
LIFE'S TOO SHORT TOO DRINK BAD COFFEE! The Sirens Call to great coffee has
nothing to do with the Mermaid.
Slave to the Bean Kona Kurmudgeon miKe mcKoffee
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URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
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found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.
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7) From: Sandy Andina
I will admit to hauling a mini-Keurig and china mug (and sometimes a kettle and NO2-powered espresso machine) when on the road by car.  Comes in its own handy bag. When I fly, it's a kettle, Zass Turkish, AP, filters (including some basket-type for hotel drip machine) and my beans. And a hard (steel or plastic) mug--you never know when all they'll have are styrofoam cups.  Got the manual 'spro-maker because it's easier to haul than even the smallest Nespresso and I can use my own beans. (Only I can't fly with it because of the nitrous oxide cartridges.....and any destination sophisticated enough to carry them would have a decent coffeehouse anyway).
Back in the primitive days before discovering homeroast or even artisanal beans, I'd save extra hotel room coffee packs so I could double up in the room's drip machine and thus get a strong enough brew. But have you noticed how many hotels are using proprietary single-cup drippers (Lavazza, Starbucks, even--blecch, Ritz-Carlton should know better--Maxwell House)? Their filter packs work ONLY in their respective machines. I'd be willing to be they were losing money on guests taking home their unused coffee packs. 
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8) From: Robert Yoder
Hi Sandy,
Can you clarify the jargon for me a bit?  What is this particular NO2-powered "manual 'spro-maker" which allows the use of one's own beans?  The only one I can find requires pods. Sorry if I'm missing the obvious.
Thanks, and,
Happy Roasting,
robert yoder 
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9) From: Edward Bourgeois
Robert,
I think she's referring to a Mypressi.
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10) From: Sandy Andina
Indeed I was.
On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Edward Bourgeois wrote:
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11) From: Seth Grandeau
I've tried the K-Cups at work, but always find them too weak.  I'll
sometimes manually stop it, halfway through, add another capsule, and
add the remaining 1/2 cup to get one decently strong cup of coffee.  I
also have the Nespresso Espresso maker.  Having never mastered the art
of espresso, myself, I find this an acceptable substitute.  I view
nespresso as beign better than Starbucks espresso, but not near as
good a shot pulled by a really good barista.
I don't hear much about the Clover machines anymore.  I've had a cup
at one of the Boston Starbucks that had one.  It was good, but nothing
I would call exceptional (only as good as the beans they work with).
We have a local roaster/coffee shop that does single serve drip and
vaccum coffee, as well as espresso.  Really good quality beans and
very tasty results.
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12) From: Sandy Andina
Have you tried the Extra Bold varieties? I often find them a bit too strong and have to add water from the espresso machine. Maybe your office is stocking the lighter roasts and has too large a cup size as the default.
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13) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
I think I missed the original post in this thread for some reason. 
Single server market ... not interested really except in the pour 
over service people are doing now. Thats interesting, but I was ever 
a huge fan of clover, and Via and K Cups and all that are, well, just 
a way to get very high margins on coffee for the corporations pushing 
them. If ypu get better coffee from a k-cup than other brew methods, 
it's just because you havent taken the time to brew coffee well.
I was invited to brew coffee at the coffee break using the Clever 
dripper, but I couldn't make it to symposium ... and I am not into 
the symposium idea anyway - I think they drawing away from the main 
conference with it. Boy, do I sound negative today or what!
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14) From: Joseph Robertson
I would have enjoyed meeting you Tom. One of your other Lister's met up with
me at the USBC and we had a great visit.
Alchemist John.
Over all it was a fun show. I'm such a people nut anyway, just put me in a
crowd and I will have fun. The after hours party at the downtown Los Angeles
Roasting and Training Lab was a blast. Just hanging with the former WBC's
was a kick.
Thanks for you K-Cup input. I like your take on them. I have no use and do
not see them in my future either.
Cheers,
Joe
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