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Topic: Technivorm KBTS - 8 your views? (16 msgs / 604 lines)
1) From: Rbt Tut
Im thinking of getting the Technivorm KBTS - 8 thermal
brewermy
question is does anyone have one?  on the web there are various criticisms
of the quality of the caraf.
also does anyone know what the
Technivorm 9 Hole Water
Sprayhead
addition is for and is it needed?  there also seem to be some models with a
glass carafe and a ? plastic long probe that goes
down into the carafe.
many thanks!
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2) From: Coffee
I've had one for a couple of years now. It's definitely the best drip coffee maker I've ever owned.
All the Technivorms now come with the 9 hole spray head. The one on Sweet Maria's page is a replacement for older ones.
The caraf does not keep the coffee hot long enough in my opinion. It will keep it hot for an hour or so. I decant the coffee into a thermos if I'm not going to use it all right away.
The ones with the glass caraf has a hot plate to keep the coffee hot. I've never liked the flavor of coffee kept hot this way, I'd rather use a thermos.
On Aug 8, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Rbt Tut wrote:
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3) From: Ira
At 09:11 AM 8/8/2010, you wrote:
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When I spoke to Technivorm at the SCAA show they said you should call 
support about this as the coffee should stay hot for hours.
Ira
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4) From: Bob Hazen
I have a technivorm with the glass caraffe.  I dislike the metallic taste I 
perceive from stainless.  The glass caraffe is easy to clean; easier than 
the stainless caraffe I beleive.  As for keeping coffee warm, I don't - I 
drink it!  The model with the glass caraffe does have a heater.  When the 
pot is done, I immediately turn it off.  That heater will destroy flavor and 
make the coffee turn vile.  I'd rather have cooler coffee than burnt coffee. 
This occurs even with the heater on low.  I've been tempted to disconnect it 
internally.
I have both single- and multiple-hole sprayheads.  After multiple tests, I 
can't see a difference in taste, wetting or temperature in the cone.  From 
my perspective, either one works well.
All in all, I'd say the Technivorm is the best automatic drip brewer I have 
used.
Bob
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5) From: Bob Glasscock
I have the Moccamaster and like it a lot. I agree the carafe isn't as 
thermally efficient as thermos bottles, but usually the contents are 
gone before that is a problem. I'll have to look into the 9-hole 
sprayhead - that should bring it up to par. 
Bob Glasscock
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Bob Glasscock
Greenville, AL
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6) From: Barry Luterman
Some tricks to make the Technivorm function  optimally.
1.Rinse the carafe in hot water and fill it with hot water. Leave the
hot water in the carafe until ready to have brewed coffee drip into
the carafe.
2. As soon as coffee has filled the carafe screw the lid on the
carafe. When pouring a cup of coffee only loosen the cap 1/4 turn.
This procedure insures keeping the brew as hot as possible without
having to reheat it.
3. Rinse the paper filter in running water before placing it in the
brew chamber. Rinsing the paper cleans any paper dust that may be
adhered to the filter. In addition rinsing the paper will make it
adhere to the plastic brew chamber and prevent it from collapsing on
itself and causing a flood of coffee on your counter top.
4. Finally, start your brew with the selector on X so that no water
drips into the carafe. When there is enough water mixed into the
grounds (approx. 2 cups) stir the brew in the brew chamber to break
the crust.Open valve to 1/2 open and allow the brew to finish. Cap as
soon as brew is finished.
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7) From: Peter Louton
I love my KBT, but I had so many problems with it overflowing, no matter how I adjusted the grind or the flow valve, so I just removed the flow valve and have not had a problem since.  I agree with the carafe not being very thermal, so I pour it immediately into my Krups carafe and then it is good to go for many hours.  
Get it and enjoy it.
Peter 
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On Aug 8, 2010 22:51, Barry Luterman <lutermanb> wrote: 
Some tricks to make the Technivorm function  optimally.
1.Rinse the carafe in hot water and fill it with hot water. Leave the
hot water in the carafe until ready to have brewed coffee drip into
the carafe.
2. As soon as coffee has filled the carafe screw the lid on the
carafe. When pouring a cup of coffee only loosen the cap 1/4 turn.
This procedure insures keeping the brew as hot as possible without
having to reheat it.
3. Rinse the paper filter in running water before placing it in the
brew chamber. Rinsing the paper cleans any paper dust that may be
adhered to the filter. In addition rinsing the paper will make it
adhere to the plastic brew chamber and prevent it from collapsing on
itself and causing a flood of coffee on your counter top.
4. Finally, start your brew with the selector on X so that no water
drips into the carafe. When there is enough water mixed into the
grounds (approx. 2 cups) stir the brew in the brew chamber to break
the crust.Open valve to 1/2 open and allow the brew to finish. Cap as
soon as brew is finished.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Bob Glasscock <eglasscock> wrote:
> I have the Moccamaster and like it a lot. I agree the carafe isn't as
> thermally efficient as thermos bottles, but usually the contents are gone
> before that is a problem. I'll have to look into the 9-hole sprayhead - that
> should bring it up to par.
> Bob Glasscock
>
>
> Quoting Rbt Tut <rotuts>:
>>
>> Im thinking of getting the Technivorm KBTS - 8 thermal
>>
>> brewer<http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-brewers/technivorm-brewers/technivorm-kbts-8-cup-thermal-brewer.html><http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-brewers/technivorm-brewers/technivorm-kbts-8-cup-thermal-brewer.html>my>> question is does anyone have one?  on the web there are various criticisms">http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-brewers/technivorm-brewers/technivorm-kbts-8-cup-thermal-brewer.html>my">http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-brewers/technivorm-brewers/technivorm-kbts-8-cup-thermal-brewer.html><http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-brewers/technivorm-brewers/technivorm-kbts-8-cup-thermal-brewer.html>my>> question is does anyone have one?  on the web there are various criticisms
>> of the quality of the caraf. also does anyone know what the
>> Technivorm 9 Hole Water
>>
>> Sprayhead<http://www.sweetmarias.com/sweetmarias/coffee-brewers/technivorm-brewers/technivorm-9-hole-water-sprayhead.html>>> addition is for and is it needed?  there also seem to be some models with
>> a
>> glass carafe and a ? plastic long probe that goes
>> down into the carafe.
>> many thanks!
>>
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8) From: Barry Luterman
If the grind is incorrect it will overflow.Wetting the filter and
getting the correct grind will solve the overflow problem.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Peter Louton
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9) From: raymanowen
Mine has a glass carafe with the Fill-from-the-bottom device.
From the start, I followed Tom's brewing tips for the TV.  Following Tom's
instructions obviates the multi-hole distribution arm, although I presume
they have one of their own implements, still close the basket valve when
starting the brew, stir it and open the valve half way.
Then there's Ray's way. Mine dispenses 200 F water, exactly as advertise=
d.
I don't suppose the water stays at 200 when it drops into 40 grounds*=
 in a
70 basket.
Add 40*+ 70= 110 light weight stuff. Average with 200 water, =
get 187 F
brewing temperature, and that's exactly what I measure. It brews at 187 =
F,
max not 200.
*[Beans are flash frozen for 5 minutes, prior to grinding. Maybe heated a
little, never get hot or even warm]
I preheat the basket with boiling water (201 - 202 F) but 187 is the
absolute max I see. Who cares about the ways and means- the taste is
fabulous without any amendments.
Cheers, Mabuhay, Lloniannau i coffi gwych -RayO, aka Opa!
On the web you will find criticisms of gold bars because they're so heavy...
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10) From: Sweet Maria's Coffee
Hi there... I think folks covered a lot already, but feel free to ask 
questions here or to info
NB: the glass carafe is for a specific brewer
NB2: the plastic probe is for the 10 cup technivorm thermals
Best,Derek
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11) From: Brad Baker
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Bob Glasscock  w=
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I have a KTBS741 and agree on all points.  It looks to me like the
stainless carafe is really only double lined on the bottom.
Regardless, we transfer it immediately to a glass lined carafe and
start brewing another pot. She likes decaf, I prefer caf.
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12) From: Richard Ferguson
If you are having poor thermal carafe performance contact Boyds (the US
importer) at inquiries and they should help you.  My
coffee was luke warm after only an hour.  They sent me out a replacement
carafe and its much better.  It still not Thermos performance but my coffee
was still hot after 4 hours today.  If your carafe is hot to the touch, as
mine was, immediately after brewing you have a bad carafe.  My new one only
gets slightly warm at the very top, the bottom stays completely cool.
Rich
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13) From: Sandy Andina
Thanks for the heads-up, RIchard. Always wondered why the carafe felt hot, but rarely have we had a chance to tell the coffee's temp. after an hour because it's long gone.
On Aug 20, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Richard Ferguson wrote:
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Peace & song, 
Sandy 
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14) From: g paris
I would never have a thermal carafe anything.  I have a *Technivorm CD and
love it.
A great machine. If I need more coffee I simply dump what may be left and
make more.
Frankly I have never understood why anyone who like/loves coffee would use a
thermos.
ginny
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15) From: Martin Maney
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 04:42:24PM -0700, g paris wrote:
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16) From: Peter Louton
I love my Technivorm and when I work my weekends, I make 4 pots of coffee to last all weekend, since I can't bring my own coffee maker to the Pediatric ICU I work at and so I rely on a microwave to heat it up.  It has been fun learning which beans allow coffee to be reheated or not.  It doesn't taste quite as good as when I get to enjoy them at home, but it beats all of my other options I have tried.  Yes, if I had time to do a pour over or such I would, but oftentimes, I have 30 seconds to a minute to reheat a little bit till the next free moment.  So that was why I bought theThermal Carafe version rather than the glass version.  I will say my old Krups's Thernal Carafe is better at keeping it warm, so I will compare and get back to Technivorm on it.
Peter
Getting ready for 24 hours of work in 36 hours of time.
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On Aug 20, 2010 19:44, g paris <pchforever> wrote: 
I would never have a thermal carafe anything.  I have a *Technivorm CD and
love it.
A great machine. If I need more coffee I simply dump what may be left and
make more.
Frankly I have never understood why anyone who like/loves coffee would use a
thermos.
ginny
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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Richard Ferguson <coffee>wrote:
> If you are having poor thermal carafe performance contact Boyds (the US
> importer) at inquiries and they should help you.  My
> coffee was luke warm after only an hour.  They sent me out a replacement
> carafe and its much better.  It still not Thermos performance but my coffee
> was still hot after 4 hours today.  If your carafe is hot to the touch, as
> mine was, immediately after brewing you have a bad carafe.  My new one only
> gets slightly warm at the very top, the bottom stays completely cool.
>
> Rich
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Brad Baker <b3jazz> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Bob Glasscock <eglasscock
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I have the Moccamaster and like it a lot. I agree the carafe isn't as
> > > thermally efficient as thermos bottles, but usually the contents are
> gone
> > > before that is a problem. I'll have to look into the 9-hole sprayhead -
> > that
> > > should bring it up to par.
> >
> > I have a KTBS741 and agree on all points.  It looks to me like the
> > stainless carafe is really only double lined on the bottom.
> > Regardless, we transfer it immediately to a glass lined carafe and
> > start brewing another pot. She likes decaf, I prefer caf.
> >
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