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Topic: Got my HotTop roaster this week. (19 msgs / 392 lines)
1) From: Manjo Iyer
Couple of days ago I received my new HotTop roaster which replaced my
Alpenrost (after 12yrs of service). I should say what a beauty! I
roasted my 1st batch yesterday and it was a breeze to use, I roasted
some coffee from Guatemala a friend of mine gave me from his estate,
10sec into 2nd crack. I am loving it! Although I love my Alpenrost, I
love the Hottop even more.
-- 
Cogito Ergo Sum
--- manjo
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2) From: g paris
you will love your hot top, it's a great roaster. which one did you
purchase?
ginny
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3) From: Robert Bedwell
Just got my Hottop this week as well.  Still studying the manual and  
watching video on Youtube.
Anyone want to share experiences and ideas?
Bob
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4) From: Lex Johnson
I emailed Micheal at Hottop USA a while ago inquiring about the rumored 1 lb
Hottop.  His reply was that he didn't see anything in the works in the next
6 months.  These guys are worse than Apple!
Lex
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5) From: Hank Perkins
Which is why I purchased the Belmor. After 8 years with a Hot top I wore out I have never looked back. 
Thanks,
Hank 
Sent from my iPhone
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6) From: g paris
I think Microsoft has had much more vaporware then Apple. At least the stuff
from Apple is great!!!
ginny
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7) From: Ira
At 10:45 AM 9/11/2010, you wrote:
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The stuff from Apple almost always looks great and usually works 
great, usually being the operative word. No worse and no better then 
Microsoft, but it's zealots are louder.
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8) From: Martin Maney
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:09:11AM -0700, Ira wrote:
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The choice between Microsoft and Apple is fundamentally about who
you're going to pay tribute to (and hope they'll continue to let you
access your old work/music/etc without charging too much extra).  A pox
on both of them!
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Everyone swallows the big lie: it's Digital RESTRICTIONS Management. 
Rights would be something completely different.
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9) From: Barbara Greenspon
Of course you're right, Ginny!
Barbara
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10) From: g paris
Barbara:
without question,
thanks for the support!!
ginny
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11) From: Robert Bedwell
I am waiting for an Omega TC probe to install before I start roasting  
with my new Hottop.  Gives me a bit more time to study!  Can't wait.
Regarding Microsoft.  After almost thirty years and a dozen or more  
PC's and more crashes than I care to remember I finally switched to  
Mac last year.   I've had to call Apple service twice and within a  
minute I was talking to someone that knew exactly what I was  
experiencing and how to correct it and did so in perfect English that  
I could understand.  Off the phone in less than 5 minutes both times.   
Best decision I have made in years.
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12) From: Terry Stockdale
Well, there's always my Hottop pages on my TerryStockdale.com web site.
You can find them via the Coffee page:http://www.terrystockdale.com/coffee/the_hottop.phpI had one of the early Hottop models.  Sold it in about 2005, when I ">http://www.terrystockdale.com/coffeeor jumping directly to the first Hottop page athttp://www.terrystockdale.com/coffee/the_hottop.phpI had one of the early Hottop models.  Sold it in about 2005, when I 
won an RK Drum in a Ron Kyle-sponsored Sweet Maria's Tradition.
Those new Hottops look good, though.  I keep thinking about it.  The 
biggest thing would be consistency, as wind and temperature tend to 
affect my gas grill roasting. Of course, voltage affected the Hottop, 
but that's what a variac is for...
Terry
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13) From: Robert Bedwell
Thank you for the link to your site.   I will go there now!
Bob
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14) From: Robert Yoder
Hi Robert,
 
How do you plan to install the TC Probe?  Where?
 
Thanks!
 
Happy Roasting,
 
robert yoder
 
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15) From: Robert Bedwell
Thanks for the note Robert.
I have not installed it yet buy have the templates in place.  I need  
to upgrade my metal bits and will do that tomorrow.  I am using Randy  
Glass's instructions in his "HOW-To Pages" section at www.espressomyespresso.com 
.
See number 9 below.   I should have the Omega probe tomorrow.   You  
will see on the webpage where it will be installed but basically it is  
installed through the bean chute cover.  Hope I don't screw it up.
Bob
How-To Pages
1 - Backflushing - Backflushing is a method to clear inaccessible  
areas of the brewing path of coffee debris and oils. Here are step-by  
step instructions on how to accomplish this.
2 - Brew-Temperature Control - Small, single boiler machines have poor  
control over the brew temperature because of the thermostats that are  
used. Here is a work-around that gives better control.
3 - Rocky Doser Modification - The Rocky doser can leave a mess. Here  
is a simple modification that helps a lot.
4 - Your First Roast - Thinking about roasting coffee? Here's what to  
watch and listen for so that even your first roast can be successful.  
Educational, even if you do not intend to roast.
5 - Changing the Portafilter Gasket - A portafilter gasket can be  
difficult to remove if left to long before being changed. Here are  
some tips to help get it out.
6 - Permanent Filter Replacement for Hottop - I prefer to avoid  
disposable items when I can, and so I came up with this method to  
create a permanent main filter replacement that fits all the KN-8828  
models.
7 - Brew-Temperature Check - Don't know what the temperature is when  
making espresso with your machine? here is a simple way to estimate  
the brewing temperature.
8 - Descaling Espresso Machine Boilers - If you use tap water,  
minerals will build up in your espresso machine. here are the  
instructions to descale a single-boiler machine.
9 - Add Bean Temperature Monitoring to the Hottop - Some like to roast  
to a specific bean temperature. Here is a relatively easy way to add a  
thermocouple probe to the Hottop coffee roasters. Includes link to  
printable cutting pattern.On Sep 12, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Robert Yoder  
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16) From: g paris
Bob:
start your machine, toss in some beans and then watcht your machine.
it will beep at temp  roasting temp reached, nothing needed at that point,
it will beep around 360/370
to tell you it needs direction, push the green lit button/enter
wait until mybe 400 it will beep for you to take action and unless you have
the first cracks and the roast is not too dark hit the green/enter button
or use the arrows to add time for the roast.
If you want simply set it for automatic ( default  18 minutes) just make
sure you hit the green lit/enter button when it beeps arund 370 and then
again around 410 if
you want a longer roast.
if at any tine you want to stop the roast, it the eject button.
magic.
let us know how it goes.
best of luck and enjoy your new great toy!
ginny
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17) From: Robert Bedwell
Thanks for the tips Ginny!
I have copied your notes.  I expect to start trying this bad boy out  
this week.  I have a closet full of "greenies" that need to be roasted.
I will keep you posted.
Bob
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18) From: Mike Koenig
Bob,
You will enjoy your HotTop.  Best thing to do is run at least one roast all
the way through 2nd crack so you know how it behaves, and know what to
expect.
I have the digital "B" model.  Currently, I've been dropping my heat to
about 80% as the beans start to brown,  then down to 40% at the point where
I anticipate first crack will start soon. Basically, what I've gleaned from
this list is that you want at least 3 minutes from start of 1st to the end
of roast, so experiment in when you need to drop your heat to obtain that
profile.  For espresso I've been targeting 4-5 minutes from start of 1st to
end,  usually stopping just before 2nd crack or a few snaps in.  I know that
I still can do some more work on my roasting profile, but I've been having
good results.
Also keep in mind that a fair amount of the advice on the internet regarding
HotTops is about the older models non-digital models, that I understand
needed some trickery to achieve darker roasts,  which may not be the best
advice for the current models.
In the end experimentation is key to getting the best out of it.
--mike
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19) From: Robert Bedwell
Mike....thank you very much for this information.  I am going to copy  
it and try it out.
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Yours is a lot simpler and I think I will be better off to start with  
"simpler."
Bob
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