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Topic: Espresso blending? (12 msgs / 388 lines)
1) From: Allon Stern
Okay, I'm gonna experiment with blending. I plan to blend post-roast, so I can dink around with it shot by shot.
I have some Brazil Moreninha Formosa "Raisin", and I just ordered some India Sufia Robusta (never tried a robusta before - gonna experiment with this - I'm gonna have to try a straight shot just to see how it comes out, not necessarily to enjoy it), Ethiopia DP Jimma-Nigusie Lemma, Aged Sumatra Lintong Peaberry '07, Guatemala Huehuetenango Finca La Maravilla.
Anyway, I was contemplating starting with
Brazil Raisin - 40%
Ethiopia DP Jimma-Nigusie - 40%
India Sufia Robusta - 10%
Aged Sumatra - 10%
Any comments/thoughts from those more experienced? This is my first time setting out to try blending for espresso.
How do the various components age? Will I want to roast them all at the same time, or rest them for different time periods?
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2) From: Robert Bedwell
It is going to be an interesting blend.  Not sure you will need the  
Robusta but then I haven't tried this one.  I would suggest that you  
keep the robusta to the side and experiment with it in smaller  
batches.  The Jimma is nice and balanced but may not add the character  
that will satisfy you in a full flavored espresso blend.  If you have  
some fresh Amaro Gayo you might use 20% it with 20% Jimma.  I have to  
be careful with Sumatra's.  For me they often change a delightful  
blend into something that is on the funky side.  I would suggest 5%  
Sumatra to start with and bump up if necessary.   I blended one last  
week at 10% and it ruined it.  I ended up at 7% and it was just enough.
Save one for me please!
Bob
On Sep 16, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Allon Stern wrote:
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3) From: Sergio Kusevitzky
Congratulations! You will have a lot of fun.
	* Post Roast is great
	* 40% Brazil as a basis is a good start.
	* The next question is: what kind of coffee do you like? If you want a sweet 
cup with nice body; I invite you to add Indonesian coffee to your basis (Java, 
Sumatra, PNG, Sulawesi)
	* If you prefer to have less body and some more brightness, I invite you to 
consider   a Central American coffee then
	* I found the Ethiopia to be too dominant and preferred to keep it up to 20%
	* I do not think the Ethiopia and the Aged Sumatra will complement each other. 
It may be wise  to wait with Robusta and Aged coffees for a later stage.
	* There is no reason to start with 5 (five!) different coffees for your first 
time!. How many beans are in 7 gram??? ;) Seems a better strategy to start with 
3 and then, once you master the tastes, go and add the others.
	* Finally, I started  12 years ago with the following two blends:
	* Sweet and Body
	* 40% Brazil
	* 40% Indonesia
	* 20% Ethiopia
	* Sweet and Bright
	* 40% Brazil
	* 40% Central America
	* 20% Ethiopia
 Anyhow, do what you want... since joy is guaranteed!
Good luck and keep posting the results
Sergio
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From: Allon Stern 
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Subject: [Homeroast] Espresso blending?
Okay, I'm gonna experiment with blending. I plan to blend post-roast, so I can 
dink around with it shot by shot.
I have some Brazil Moreninha Formosa "Raisin", and I just ordered some India 
Sufia Robusta (never tried a robusta before - gonna experiment with this - I'm 
gonna have to try a straight shot just to see how it comes out, not necessarily 
to enjoy it), Ethiopia DP Jimma-Nigusie Lemma, Aged Sumatra Lintong Peaberry 
'07, Guatemala Huehuetenango Finca La Maravilla.
Anyway, I was contemplating starting with
Brazil Raisin - 40%
Ethiopia DP Jimma-Nigusie - 40%
India Sufia Robusta - 10%
Aged Sumatra - 10%
Any comments/thoughts from those more experienced? This is my first time setting 
out to try blending for espresso.
How do the various components age? Will I want to roast them all at the same 
time, or rest them for different time periods?
-
allon
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4) From: Allon Stern
On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Sergio Kusevitzky wrote:
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Yeah, the idea was to have a set of ingredients and mix them on a shot-by-shot basis, experimenting with different blends to figure it out.
I have some Guat I can add to the mix too.
And 7 grams?! Who pulls 7 gram shots? I'm doing around 18g ristrettos with a triple basket.
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Hey, thanks! One nice thing about having this commercial espresso machine in my office is that I'm pulling tons of shots, so I'm going through lots of coffee....which means I'm ordering more; I can see I'll have to expand the varietals I have on hand, but that shouldn't be a problem :D
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5) From: Sergio Kusevitzky
As told... it is you to set the rules of the game and enjoy playing it!
I also use the triple basket.
Sergio
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Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 5:59:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Espresso blending?
On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Sergio Kusevitzky wrote:
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Yeah, the idea was to have a set of ingredients and mix them on a shot-by-shot 
basis, experimenting with different blends to figure it out.
I have some Guat I can add to the mix too.
And 7 grams?! Who pulls 7 gram shots? I'm doing around 18g ristrettos with a 
triple basket.
<Snip>
Hey, thanks! One nice thing about having this commercial espresso machine in my 
office is that I'm pulling tons of shots, so I'm going through lots of 
coffee....which means I'm ordering more; I can see I'll have to expand the 
varietals I have on hand, but that shouldn't be a problem :D
-
allon
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6) From: Derek Bradford
To follow up on Sergio's comment, this is an interesting article from Roast
magazine from Jan/Feb 2008 on statistical variations in coffee blends.  Jim
Schulman has a table in it showing a spread of shot-to-shot variation for
blends at different doses.  I have them in PDF format (the article reprints,
not the entire issue), but I can't remember where I got them.  If anyone
would like them, send me an email and I'll email them to you.
--Derek
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Sergio Kusevitzky
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7) From: Robert Bedwell
Thanks Derek....I would love to have a copy.
rlb
Bob
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8) From: Allon Stern
On Sep 16, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Derek Bradford wrote:
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YES :)
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9) From: Peter Louton
Hi Derek,
I'd love to have a copy peter 
Peter
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On Sep 16, 2010 20:07, Allon Stern <allon> wrote: 
On Sep 16, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Derek Bradford wrote:
> To follow up on Sergio's comment, this is an interesting article from Roast
> magazine from Jan/Feb 2008 on statistical variations in coffee blends.  Jim
> Schulman has a table in it showing a spread of shot-to-shot variation for
> blends at different doses.  I have them in PDF format (the article reprints,
> not the entire issue), but I can't remember where I got them.  If anyone
> would like them, send me an email and I'll email them to you.
YES :)
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10) From: Joseph Robertson
Hi Derek,
I missed that issue. my personal email is
theotherjo
I would have sent this PM but I could not find your email.
Thanks Derek
Joe
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Peter Louton 

11) From: Sergio Kusevitzky
Thanks Derek.
Indeed, IMHO there is no reason to blend more than 3-4 coffee types in a single 
blend.
The statistics of this article shows that it is hard to get consistency when 
getting into the lower percentages.
My preferred blends include a basis (Brazil) a good body strong contributor 
(i.e. Java) and then something special (each one gives a different coffee!)... 
El Salvador, Ethiopia, Uganda, Bali, Tanzania, Costa Rica, Indian Malabar, 
etc...
Sometimes I add a top notch  robusta or Yemen to create some intriguing taste.
Regards
Sergio
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Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 12:52:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Espresso blending?
To follow up on Sergio's comment, this is an interesting article from Roast
magazine from Jan/Feb 2008 on statistical variations in coffee blends.  Jim
Schulman has a table in it showing a spread of shot-to-shot variation for
blends at different doses.  I have them in PDF format (the article reprints,
not the entire issue), but I can't remember where I got them.  If anyone
would like them, send me an email and I'll email them to you.
--Derek
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Sergio Kusevitzky
wrote:
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12) From: silas coelho
Derek
thanks a lot for the files, very usefull, indeed.
Grato/Regards
Silas
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