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Topic: Paper towel filters (16 msgs / 361 lines)
1) From: John A C Despres
To everyone who likes the brown Chemex filters, I apologize in advance.
I hate 'em! A couple months ago, I bought two boxes of the brown ones after
using the white ones for a couple years. Dunno why I bought the brown ones,
maybe figured they are better, I guess.
I'd been using the vac pot, then rotated back to Chemex. I didn't make the
correlation, but I seemed to be suddenly very dissatisfied with my coffee. I
tweaked roats, tried different this and that as well as anything else I
could think of. It still tasted bad, no matter what I did.
This morning after rinsing the filter, as I always do, I caught a whiff of
it. Brown paper towel. You know, the kind you dry your hands with in some
facilities? Then your hands smell like brown paper towel. Well, that's the
scent that comes from the wet Chemex brown filters.
This afternoon, I bought a pack of the white Chemex filters an tested them
both dry then wet. Neither has any scent while dry, but once wetted, the
white remains scent free, but the brown, well, maybe I'll give them to a gas
station for hand drying...
I'm so looking forward to tasting a cup each of the El Salvador Manzno
Process experiment after dinner!
John
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2) From: Clay Spence
Yes, that was my reaction, too: Brown paper towels. It makes me wonder what
they're thinking.
Clay
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3) From: Rich
The attraction is that it is natural unbleached paper.  Might even be 
made from 100% post consumer products.  Makes lousy coffee though.
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4) From: Clay Spence
I knew that ;)
Really, I did. Is bleaching so bad for us or the environment? I can imagine
that it might be.
Clay
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5) From: Martin Maney
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 06:26:05PM -0400, Clay Spence wrote:
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Long ago, back when white filters really were bleached in the
chlorinated sense of the word, I did some comparison of various white
and brown filters.  As bad as the paper towel effect may be, I found it
less objectionable than the nasty chemical taints of the bleached
filters.
Twenty years later I guess at least all the good filters are bleached
using less offensive means and the balance may be different.  So far
I've (mostly unintentionally) compared the white and brown Filtropa
filters, and they both seemed good to me.  I think I still have some of
the browns tucked away, maybe some day I'll have too much free time and
try the comparison again, see if months of using the white ones have
undesensitized me to the "woody" notes others complain of.  But frankly
I'm more likely to exert myself about the difference between the white
Filtropas and the Bonmac hemps that are making their way here.  If I
get excited about it, maybe I can run down a box of those Melitta
bamboo things, too.  ;-)
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6) From: Jeffrey Kelly
"....................This morning after rinsing the filter, as I always do,
I caught a whiff of
it. Brown paper towel. You know, the kind you dry your hands with in some
facilities? Then your hands smell like brown paper towel. Well, that's the
scent that comes from the wet Chemex brown filters.....
John"
I noticed that smell this afternoon with a brown Melitta that I just
switched to.  Using up old forgotten stock.  It was an intense corrugated
cardboard odor once wet.  I was tempted to sip the rinse water but couldn't
bring myself to take the plunge.
-Jeff
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7) From: Joseph Robertson
Martin,
Like you, I'm anxious to hear from this list what the new comers here are
like. white Filtropas , Bonmac hemps and Melitta bamboo.
Joe
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8) From: John A C Despres
I'm not sure the Chemex filters are bleached or not, but I get no odor
whatsoever from them. I too, look forward to the hemp and bamboo filters.
In my youth, after a long night of rehearsing, then more time spent doing
what theatre folk do after rehearsals until about 2 AM, my buddy and I were
at the theatre first thing the next morning in desperate need of coffee. Ted
st to brewing a pot, but there were no filters to be found. We were students
and broke, so we couldn't run to the Hilltop Party Store to buy any, so we
improvised. Yep - with a brown paper towel. Now, that was extra nasty
coffee.
John
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9) From: Rich
Well, the hemp will be popular with all of the closet stoners....
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10) From: Michael Mccandless
Pdnny was looking for hemp & found Melitta bamboo.
Great find - they pass through much more flavor.
A big plus with the Jimma.
This one peaks & starts to wane in 3 - 4 days.
As it starts to fade, the bamboo brings out a little more life.
No paper taste at all.
McSparky
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11) From: Joseph Robertson
Coool.
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12) From: Andy Thomas
I've done the paper towel filter work-around too, long ago. I hope never to=
 be =
that desperate for caffeine again! In those days, the coffee came from a ca=
n =
when I made it at home, but likely as not I was drinking a coffee-like subs=
tance =
out of a vending machine. (Damn, I was having a good day until I remember=
ed =
that....).
I have both Bonmac (didn't even know they were hemp) and white Chemex filte=
rs =
for Chemex brewing. Both make excellent coffee without paper taste. My =
experience with Melitta bamboo filters is different from that of others', =
however -- I get a strong paper taste if I don't rinse them. So, I rinse =
them =
and then they are fine.
About brown filters, I suspect some people will use brown anything, thinkin=
g it =
is healthier or whatever. Like bread. Think, nine grain coffee filters.
 
Andy
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Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Paper towel filters
I'm not sure the Chemex filters are bleached or not, but I get no odor
whatsoever from them. I too, look forward to the hemp and bamboo filters.
In my youth, after a long night of rehearsing, then more time spent doing
what theatre folk do after rehearsals until about 2 AM, my buddy and I were
at the theatre first thing the next morning in desperate need of coffee. Ted
st to brewing a pot, but there were no filters to be found. We were students
and broke, so we couldn't run to the Hilltop Party Store to buy any, so we
improvised. Yep - with a brown paper towel. Now, that was extra nasty
coffee.
John
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13) From: raymanowen
Just one thing- Watch Out how you tweak the roats- bad tweaking could lead
to rong roats!
"I tweaked roats" Me, too -ro
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14) From: John A C Despres
Oh, but Ray, well tweaked roats can be full of surprises. Some of my
favorite roats have been tweaked for weeks. Then I broo'ed that roat write
up.
Thanks for the laugh.
John
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15) From: Dave Ehrenkranz
And non-closet stoners.
dave
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16) From: raymanowen
Holy Roat Tweak!
Here's one for the collective consideration:
A C++ Roat of Ethiopia Organic Shakiso Sidamo "Madura" of 8 Oct 10. My best
description would be a musical overture.
As a friend of Bach's- J.S. not C.P.E.- said, "I don't know the notes but I
like the music." There is a difference between notes and music. One of my
favorite conversation stoppers is the CCCCC of the 64' Diaphone Profunda or
any of the Tubas on 100" of wind in the 8' Grand Ophicleide stop.
Rest counts, and for those who can distinguish the "knee" a few days post
roat when the flavor starts to deteriorate after peaking, I'm curious. What
kind of coffee Hell Hole do you use to store the beans?
A jute sack or potato sack would make an exceptional HH because the  CO2
molecules could exit and the O2 replacements enter so easily. What a
sterling Staling Fantasia for a former excellent roat.
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
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