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Topic: Jimma, first taste (14 msgs / 567 lines)
1) From: Andy Thomas
I have 5lb of Ethiopia Jimma, but havent had time to give it the attention =
it =
deserves, so I haven't roasted yet. So, while on an errand in Vancouver thi=
s =
morning, I stopped by Compass Coffee Roasters. MiKe, the Head Bean, had lef=
t the =
building but Ben pulled a splendid shot of Jimma for me. Now I'm Really loo=
king =
forward to the weekend when I will be able to focus on nailing the roast --=
 at =
least nailing it as well as I can with a semi-modified Poppery.
Instead of roasting 4 different coffees as I usually do, I plan to roast 4 =
(or =
more) batches of Jimma just to explore some of the possibilities. I also =
bought =
a bag of Compass-roasted Jimma, which I expect will become my benchmark. We=
ll =
done, MiKe and crew.
Andy (and the tuna wrap is pretty tasty,too)
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2) From: Bryan Wray
Stop on out to the roastery as well, we have one of Tom's Kenya offerings o=
n today as well as Jimma.  Tomorrow we'll have one of Tom's Rwandas as we=
ll as the Kenya and Jimma.
We *heart* shrubs, haha.
-bry
Bryan Wray
Compass Coffee
360.831.1480
Bryan
It is my hope that people realize that coffee is more than just a caffeine =
delivery service, it can be a culinary art- Chris Owens
--- On Wed, 10/20/10, Andy Thomas  wrote:
From: Andy Thomas 
Subject: [Homeroast] Jimma, first taste
To: homeroast
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 12:29 PM
I have 5lb of Ethiopia Jimma, but havent had time to give it the attention =
it =
deserves, so I haven't roasted yet. So, while on an errand in Vancouver thi=
s =
morning, I stopped by Compass Coffee Roasters. MiKe, the Head Bean, had lef=
t the =
building but Ben pulled a splendid shot of Jimma for me. Now I'm Really loo=
king =
forward to the weekend when I will be able to focus on nailing the roast --=
 at =
least nailing it as well as I can with a semi-modified Poppery.
Instead of roasting 4 different coffees as I usually do, I plan to roast 4 =
(or =
more) batches of Jimma just to explore some of the possibilities. I also =
bought =
a bag of Compass-roasted Jimma, which I expect will become my benchmark. We=
ll =
done, MiKe and crew.
Andy (and the tuna wrap is pretty tasty,too)
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3) From: Robert Bedwell
I have gone through quite a bit of Jimma and still have another 5 pounds left and for me the rating of 95 is overstated.  The Sidamo Shakisso Maduro was rated at 91 and it was extraordinary.  Amaro Gayo is another one that I find to be excellent as well.  The Jimma would be in third place for me.  Of course it's all subjective and we are lucky to have marvelous Ethiopian's available.  
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4) From: miKe mcKoffee
And if you're in the Beaverton, OR area Chun just pulled me an excellent
Jimma shot... (I'd pull my own but sometimes have to force myself to have
staff pull my shots to spot check, Chun scored a 5.75 with that
shot....that's on the WBC scale of 0-6:)
Some may prefer the over the top in your face narrow focused super stickily
sweet fruit of the Shakisso Madurro (and we went through 240lb of it after
Haile ran out) but I'll stand by my earlier statement Jimma is the best SO
espresso Ethiopia of this year being far more complex, smooth and while
great fruit at the same time balanced. =
And damn fine linger :) BTW that shot was at 12 days rest kickin' butt and
takin' names...
Slave to the Bean  miKe mcKoffee
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5) From: Andy Thomas
Thanks, Bryan. I would have come today, but I was on the clock -- had to ge=
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back to work in Salem.
From: Bryan Wray 
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Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 12:53:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Jimma, first taste
Stop on out to the roastery as well, we have one of Tom's Kenya offerings o=
n =
today as well as Jimma.  Tomorrow we'll have one of Tom's Rwandas as well=
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Kenya and Jimma.
We *heart* shrubs, haha.
-bry
Bryan Wray
Compass Coffee
360.831.1480
Bryan
It is my hope that people realize that coffee is more than just a caffeine =
delivery service, it can be a culinary art- Chris Owens
--- On Wed, 10/20/10, Andy Thomas  wrote:
From: Andy Thomas 
Subject: [Homeroast] Jimma, first taste
To: homeroast
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 12:29 PM
I have 5lb of Ethiopia Jimma, but havent had time to give it the attention =
it =
deserves, so I haven't roasted yet. So, while on an errand in Vancouver thi=
s =
morning, I stopped by Compass Coffee Roasters. MiKe, the Head Bean, had lef=
t the =
building but Ben pulled a splendid shot of Jimma for me. Now I'm Really loo=
king =
forward to the weekend when I will be able to focus on nailing the roast --=
 at =
least nailing it as well as I can with a semi-modified Poppery.
Instead of roasting 4 different coffees as I usually do, I plan to roast 4 =
(or =
more) batches of Jimma just to explore some of the possibilities. I also =
bought =
a bag of Compass-roasted Jimma, which I expect will become my benchmark. We=
ll =
done, MiKe and crew.
Andy (and the tuna wrap is pretty tasty,too)
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6) From: Allon Stern
On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:05 PM, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
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I pulled a shot today that was 1/8 Indian Sufia Robusta, 1/8 aged sumatra, 3/8 Jimma, and 3/8 Haile.
Wooooooh. Dang near blew my head off with fruity brightness. This is a relatively light roast on the ethiopians, darker on the rest.
(The ethiopians are good as SO, just experimentin' and had a little bit of the HSS left over)
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allon
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8) From: Andy Thomas
Yup, living in northwest Oregon certainly has its perks. And not just =
coffee-related.
From: Brian Kamnetz 
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Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 4:25:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Jimma, first taste
Andy, you are so lucky! I sure envy you and the other people who can
make it out to miKe's neck of the woods! Thanks for sharing your
experience.
Brian
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9) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
Nomatter how much people would like to pretend they are universal, 
cupping scores have to be relative to the origin too, which adds some 
further complications. An Ethiopia Natural at 95 points means to me 
that, among really nice, super sweet and fruited Ethiopia naturals, 
this one is a star, and on a cupping table it would outshine those 
other naturals. That factor adds 2-3 points at the top end of the 
scoring ladder. If you don't like Eth Naturals and prefer Eth. 
washed, thats another subject.
But of course there are universal basics to cupping, to some degree. 
I mean, the day an India arabica makes 90 points, let alone 88, will 
be big news here. Kenyas can make 90 quite regularly. Is Kenya coffee 
generally better than India? 99.9% of coffee buyers would say yes. 
But if you treasure mild and balanced coffees, and you distinctly 
don't like brightness in coffee, your 84 point India might be 
preferable to a 92 point Kenya. I think we are lucky with our 
customers who know this is an "exploration of taste" ... their taste. 
I don't think people would go to a wine shop and demand that what 
they buy pleases them. They try to make an educated guess based on 
the information from the staff and labels and previous experience. 
But ultimately, nobody can know what people will like, and when you 
have someone with really specific taste, like the rare person who 
feels that Indias are far better than Kenyas, they need to know that 
about their taste preferences, and they can only find out by trying 
things out ... Anyway, I just take cupping scores as a small portion 
of the information about a coffee, so in reality when we talk about a 
"90 point coffee" we are saying extremely little. Somehow though, it 
sounds more meaningful than it really is.  -Tom
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10) From: Lynne
Thanks, Tom for an excellent explanation.
Lynne
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee <
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11) From: John and Emma
Wow Tom,
Thanks for the very insightful reply to this thread. As I am still a
relative newbie to homeroasting (under 4 years) I am still learning so much.
I must say the first couple of purchases from SM's was based strictly on
highest cupping scores. I then purchased based on region to find what my
wife and I like best. I also focused on recommendations from this list when
appropriate.
I learn so much from everyone here. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
John H.

12) From: Bob Hazen
IMHO, the numbers are just that - numbers.  It's Tom's superb descriptions 
that I go by.  Having just received 20 lbs of beans, Tom and Maria caught my 
attention by waving the Harar banner.  Dang!  Gotta have some of that!  It's 
been too long!  And then I noticed that Jimma is still available, so I 
ordered some of that.  Another 20 lbs is now on the way.  Gonna have to 
embark on stash reduction.
Bob
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13) From: Yakster
I'm just slowly coming out of a long, painful stash reduction program.  It's
not a place that you want to be, but it's hard not to buy these coffees that
are just so good.  It's Tom's descriptions that tempt me.
I just recently picked up 5 # of the Jimma and 5 # of the Colombia Peaberry
Los Caracoles del Sur and I'm thinking of roasting up some of the latter
tonight and already making plans for how I'm going to change the next roast
for the Jimma.
-Chris
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14) From: Bob Hazen
I'm thinking stash reduction ought not to be too painful, provide said stash 
isn't overwhelming.  It should be enjoyable, methinks.  I think I'll label 
my effort a preemptive stash reduction.  Having read that some Java may be 
arriving in a few months, I want to be ready for it.
Bob
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