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Topic: Heading OT: Single cup brewers (14 msgs / 263 lines)
1) From: Bryan Wray
I didn't misunderstand your point, I just clouded mine by mentioning espresso.
Though I mentioned espresso machines I didn't mean that I'm only picky about who I supply "espresso" to.
In fact, I think manually brewed coffee is just as finicky as espresso. My point revolved around the fact that if someone approaches a Trifecta with the mindset, "The roaster told me this is how to do it" and then pushes 4 buttons to have a cup of tasty coffee splooge out, then they can go get their coffee elsewhere.
If they aren't willing to commit to bettering themselves, tinkering with brewing parameters and the art and craft that is barista, then they might as well go full auto and throw all caution out the door as far as I'm concerned.
There are three things that I look out for in a customer: personality, persistence and passion.
I guess it just boils down to not wanting to hold a wholesale customer's hand and tell them how they should brew every single coffee.  There should be a drive inside them and inside their employees to explore coffee in a practical and personal manner.  I don't think this machine provides that.  I think if the person truly possessed the necessary passion they wouldn't want a machine to do it for them, they would want to learn how to be better than the machine; if they don't care then eventually my profession and passion becomes obsolete.
...man those player pianos sure are something to watch aren't they!  The passion in the programming is just astounding!
-bry
Bryan Wray
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Bryan
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2) From: Ira
At 06:43 PM 11/4/2010, you wrote:
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Well, I find them magical, not so much in the playing, though the 
modern ones are plenty good enough I wish I had the money and space 
to have one, but just in the mechanism and the drive to make a player 
piano. It will never be the quality of reproduction I hear at Disney 
hall, but it's wonderful for what it is. Depressingly, bad coffee is 
never really anything but bad coffee.
I understand what you're saying though I believe it's wrong from a 
business perspective, but using something that's an almost magical 
experience for many people probably misses the point.
Ira
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3) From: Ira
At 06:43 PM 11/4/2010, you wrote:
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Ever seen an 
Orchestrium? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRgA6hVYEWU It's not 
about the quality of the music, it's just about the fact someone did it.
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4) From: Rich
Ira, if you get a chance you want to tour this place. http://www.placedelamusique.org/On 11/05/2010 02:13 AM, Ira wrote:
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5) From: Allon Stern
On Nov 5, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Rich wrote:
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orhttp://www.museemechanique.org/-
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6) From: Robert Yoder
WOW! Thanks for the link, Allon!
 
I am the proud owner of an Ampico-fitted Knabe grand piano and many, many rolls.  Place de la Musique is right up my  alley!
 
robert 
 
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7) From: Robert Yoder
Oops! I should have thanked you, Rich, for the link to Place de la Musique.  So: Thanks!
 
I have a terrible case of organ envy (!).
 
robert
 
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8) From: John A C Despres
Naughty Marietta is kinda cute...
After that, the rest of the site is great. Another spot to visit in
Illinois. Not far from here at all. Thanks for posting the link.
John
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9) From: Rich
They will let you wander through that organ.  It is huge, 4 floors 
worth.  It can be played manually or driven by computer.
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10) From: raymanowen
Get a load of this Orchestrion, assembled and programmed by Pat Matheny.
Quite a trip- the original silent movies had a small orchestra for
accompaniment, but they had to hire and pay all the orchestra members,
depending on how much sound local society wanted or could afford.
Enterprise and ingenuity brought the Unit Orchestra typified by the
WurliTzer and other small theater pipe organ builders. Only had to pay the
organist, not a whole group. It evolved to the Orchestrion, like a small
player Rube Goldberg instrument. Like any complex machine, maintenance and
tuning can be daunting.
Rebuilding the big organ at Atlantic City, N.J., is an unknowable question.
Cool heads have already prevailed in that the "Mobile" 5-manual console,
long disconnected, has not been discarded. The DC blower motors have been
replaced with three-phase AC motors totaling over 500 hp, and it still needs
$10 million of rebuilding to approach full function and tuning of the
33,000+ pipes.
If they don't finish it all, another treasure will have become an artifact
of the Disposable Society. Just like excellent coffee, it takes
the commitment of many artists in their own right to the goal of a drink
that does not have a single definable repeatable flavor. If your coffee
definition resembles the solution to the Quadratic equation, Starbucks
awaits!
Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
Push the Button, Max.
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11) From: Bryan Wray
For best results, I'd recommend doing a pour-over like this video illustrates:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v3f8Y-_yfY8You're welcome.
(sorry if I wasted valuable time)
-bry
Bryan Wray
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Bryan
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12) From: ricky carter
Sweeeeeeeeet!
Primal Scream pour over!
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13) From: Bryan Wray
That is the type of thing that happens between dialing in all the espresso grinders for the morning and actually having the first customer arrive.
-bry
Bryan Wray
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14) From: Bob Hazen
So let me get this right.  This was before or >after< you drank all the 
espresso from dialing in the grinders?  ;-)
Bob


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