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Topic: Thanksgiving Ramblings (16 msgs / 360 lines)
1) From: Hank Perkins
First, I hope everyone had a memorable Thanksgiving or a Great
Thanksgiving.  As I look back over my 52 years there are only a
handful of Thanksgivings that are memorable, mostly bad.  As I reflect
on these with my family we I laugh and laugh.  These Thanksgivings are
what make the normal Thanksgivings fun.  One thing I always reflect on
is that Thanksgiving is all about accepting the bad and celebrating
the good.
Behmor Cleaning - After being chastised here for not keeping my
roaster clean I have repented.  It really wasn't that dirty when I
started but it did need cleaning.  I have tried a variety of different
methods for cleaning and have found that a quick wipe  down with
Isopropyl  Alcohol using a paper towel.  This is very effective,
leaves no residue and pulls the coffee oils right off the inside of
the roaster.  Best part, you don't have to rinse the inside.  You can
do a dry run or just preheat it.  All the alcohol is gone once the
internal temp hits ~175 degrees.
Behmor Temperature Probe - Is nice to have, but is frustrating.  I
have limited control at adjusting the temperature (opening the door)
or even  understanding what I can learn from the probe.  One thing it
has taught me, I wonder how much roasting and how much baking of the
coffee I am really doing.  You can also see the roaster not get as hot
when it gets dirty which is a good thing.
Behmor vs. Quest  - I have about decided to go ahead and make the jump
to the Quest.  At this juncture I have little confidence I am being
all I can be with the Behmor.  I wold love to hear some opinions about
the Quest.  At first I was put off by it's small batch size until I
found out how quick it roasts and that you can roast one load after
another resulting in an hourly output as high or higher than the
Behmor.
Comments are welcome.
Thanks!!
Hank
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2) From: Edward Bourgeois
Your approach to a roast with a Quest will most resemble a commercial
solid drum with air, roaster. Similar controls and heat transfer
profile. Minus the fact it's electric vs. gas. Most pro.articles
written about roasting usually refer to this type of roasting. You can
expect to be able to get similar characteristics in the roast to the
top Roasters. I do like some of the different heat applications in the
various other home roasters. With the most extreme modifications or
zen can produce a roast with a different character that can sometimes
match better with some beans and desired outcomes than a typical
commercial drum. Direct radiant heat always seemed to make a lot of
sense to me, bean friendly, which is the Behmors strong point if you
can get around it's shortcomings. It's puzzled me why  there aren't
more commercial roaster designs being used with different combinations
of heat transfer.
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3) From: Robert Bedwell
I am glad your Thanksgiving was good.  It felt like Sunday all day and I am retired.  Figure that one?
I use a Hottop and only started roasting in August.  I suspect cleaning it is more of a PIA than with the Behmor but I
do give it a good cleaning after each 6-10 roasts.  Of course I clean out the stray chaff thoroughly after each roast.
Amazing how soaking the parts in Carfiza almost immediately removes the oils from parts.  
I had my name in for a Quest but SM didn't get them in soon enough.  However the Hottop has been fantastic.  The
control of the roasts has been the feature that I have enjoyed.  It requires you be engaged with controlling the heat and
the fan throughout the process.  The learning curve was much shorter thanks to a couple of other Hottop users.  The
few times that I have needed to contact Hottop they have been exceptional.
In retrospect I am glad that I have the Hottop and the Quest was late arriving and it has nothing to do with the
Quest.  Frankly I think I would have enjoyed it as much as the Hottop.   Both suffer from the inability to roast 
enough beans to suit me.  Most of my roasts are 8 oz, some 9 oz.  The Behmor does closer to a pound which would better
suit me.  So, my thought process is to wait a bit for the rumored new Hottop that is expected to roast a pound or
buy one of the sample roasters which I can't justify the expense of for a couple pounds of coffee a week.
It's a dilemma but a good one.
Good coffee to all!
Bob
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4) From: Hank Perkins
Actually my Thanksgiving has sucked. I am sick as a dog. But thats ok, we all get sick. I will be hitting the Doc in a box in a couple of hours when they open. I rented a cabin in the mountains 3 hours from here and I left my family there so I wouldn't ruin their thanksgiving. They are having a great time.  I didn't sleep much last night but my dog is being a trooper and keeping me company.  Stopped up coughing body aches etc.
I have been roasting for 10 years using many different roasters but when we recently purchased our Giotto espresso maker it changed everything. We are much more critical of the coffee now. 
Thanks,
Hank
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5) From: Lynne
So sorry you are sick, esp. for a holiday, and hope you will feel better
fast. I think renting that cabin for your family was such a cool, selfless
thing to do!
My holiday was nice. Nothing spectacular, but nice. It's been a year that
would put Job to the test. A friend of thirty years, my ex-boyfriend (we
were still friends, talked daily), my ex-husband (no contact w/me, but my
kids connected & resolved some issues - he was abusive, so this brought up
all sorts of conflicting feelings), and my oldest, dear side-kick, my dog
Shiloh, all died this year. Plus I was/am being harassed by my landlord who
I now realize thinks I'm their maid (ha - did THEY get a surprise!)
Anyway, one of my sons just got an apt w/a friend, so we had our day over
there. Since I had a last minute order to watch my landlord's dogs
Thanksgiving morning, that threw a monkey wrench in my thanksgiving plans
(was going to sleep over there the night before).
It worked out. Was going to debone that 20 lb turkey like I did last year
(following the instructions on video fr Julia Child & Jacque Pepin), but
that didn't work out, so I just hacked it away. I marinated it in a gallon
of milk and almost a liter of apple juice since Monday, plus some spices.
Cooked it on the highest his oven would reach - 525 degrees. It cooked fast
and was unbelievably moist and tasty. I might do it this way every year!
Left the wings & legs along w/most of the rest for my son to eat for
leftovers.
Only downside was I had NO coffee - until I got home, of course. He has one
of those stupid Senseo machines. I was even going to risk a cup, but looking
at the open package of "dark roast" labeled pouches, I figured it wasn't
worth getting poisoned by that, haah!!
All in all, it was a good day. We seem to be overcoming our difficulties,
and we were/are truly thankful for all the good we have in our family (plus,
we at least had our little Dylan home for Thanksgiving).
hugs to my homeroast family -
Lynne
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6) From: michael brown
I have also been sick. But it seems to have been a short lived (72hr) bug.  My brother and his girlfriend were in town from Denver and they suggested something i had never heard of. Hydrogen Peroxide...in my ears.  I was desperate enough to try anything...the sinus pressure was unbearable. So i tried it. At first its almost unbearable because someone is pouring a liquid in your ear, but as it starts to fizzle i could feel it working its magic on all the crud and pressure. Felt a lot better afterward and who's to say, this might have been an illness that would have lingered for weeks.  I really do believe it helped shorten the life of my cold or whatever it was.  If your in enough discomfort, i'd say try it!
Now about coffee.  My brother is a fellow enthusiast. He was enthralled with my many toys. He ended up falling in love with my most recent joy, the Aeropress and also really enjoyed the CCD.  Also pulled several shots of my standard espresso blend.He was here for the whole week so we went through three coffees i had at the house, then threw together a few haphazard blends. one was really good that i plan to work on further.Thanksgiving is always special to me. It is our family's big holiday. We never know who will be where for Christmas but it's understood we all come together then travel to my Grandparent's house in MS to feast. It was another one for the books.
I'm thankful for God's grace, my family, friends, and the many fellowships i'm involved in.Roast on friends!
Michael Bb'ham, AL
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7) From: Sandy Andina
Senseo is horrid.  Haven't tried Tassimo. Keurig is pretty good, though (next best thing to home-or-artisan-roast, IMHO). I think the paper pod-wrap Senseo uses allows too much outgassing, even if the pods are sealed in foil pouches (which I don't recall they are). With the foil-and-plastic K-cups, any aromatics that may be in the outgassed CO2 find their way into the cup rather than dissipating through the air.  
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8) From: Lynne
Yeah, when he told me Senseo, I was thinking it was another version of
Keurig. Tried that and even though what I had was dark roast, it was pretty
decent. But one look at what looked like a tea bag of who-knows-how-old that
coffee is - ugh. No way.
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9) From: Yakster
Our thanksgiving was nice, with Turkey, Ham, Mac & Cheese, Candied Yams,
Cranberry sauce, potato salad, stuffing, green beans with bacon, cabbage
with ham hocks, apple pie, sweet potato pie, pumpkin spice muffins with
cream cheese frosting, and some other dishes I'm not remembering right now.
It was great to get together with family on Thanksgiving.
I brought over coffee, of course, to prepare in stainless steel press pots.
No room in the kitchen due to all the foods so I took my Vario and electric
kettle into the laundry room.  I pressed a Colombian Royal Select Decaf that
I hear was good, and also a pot of El Salvador Matalapa -Tablon El Amate
followed by a pot of Ethiopia Dry Process Jimma -Nigusie Lemma.  Everyone
else preferred the Ethiopian coffee with comments on how sweet it was and
that some people didn't need to add sugar, but I really preferred the clean,
more subtle orange flavors in the washed El Salvador coffee.  I used up the
last of this coffee this morning with an Americano for the Wife (she's
decided she likes Americanos, which is easy for me when I'm pulling shots)
and two doubles for me.  I'll really miss this coffee when it's gone, just
two more batches at 300 g per batch for the two pounds I got.
Hank,
Sorry to hear that you're not feeling well.  I hate being sick on the
holidays.  I hope you feel better soon.
The Quest sounds interesting to me, I'd consider it as my next, future
roaster.  Since I've lowered by Behmor batches to 300 g to improve my
profiles, the jump to the Quest wouldn't be all that difficult, especially
with the idea that you could crank out back-to-back roasts at a higher
rate.  I've actually been enjoying doing smaller batches of more different
coffees to have the ability to mix up what I'm drinking and have a nice
variety on hand.
As for the rest of the weekend, I think we're staying in and avoiding any
shopping mania.
-Chris
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10) From: Hank Perkins
Thanks everyone. Dr said I have a chest infection. After $206 at the pharmacy and a few hours I feel better physically. However as a third generation Auburn grad I am a different kind of sick watching this game. 
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11) From: Jim Gundlach
When were you at Auburn?  I taught there from about 1978 till 2008.
       pecan jim 
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12) From: Hank Perkins
Business Major. First Third Gen Grad. At Auburn   Class of 1981
We were written up in the Alumni Mag
It isn't about coffee but...
 War Damn Eagle!!!
Thanks,
Hank 
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13) From: John A C Despres
Now, lemme see... Didn't Auburn pull this one out by the skin of their
teeth?
John
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14) From: Hank Perkins
Glad you are better Michael. My son is back in Bham. He has school work. Glad your thanksgiving was  blessed. Certainly my famliy's life is blessed. 
Hank
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15) From: Hank Perkins
Oh yes. Biggest Game. Fun game to watch after the halftime show. 
Thanks,
Hank Perkins
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16) From: jon morgan
Too bad auburn plays such a dirty game. I hope they get what is coming to
them.
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