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Topic: Why I will be selling my Behmor and buying an M3 (8 msgs / 255 lines)
1) From: John Nanci
Ivan,
Why didn't you put it on the 1 lb setting and roast the 8oz?  It 
would have given you plenty of time.  On the other hand, if that is 
what you did, and you could not roast 8 oz in 20 minutes, something 
is wrong and you should contact customer support.  That isn't right.
At 06:26 PM 12/10/2010, you wrote:
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2) From: BSGarley
I think (IMHO) that what is NOT right is having a 1# machine that can only
perform to ones expectations with 8 (or 12) oz of beans. At that point the
Behmor is a quarter kilo instrument and must be compared to other quarter
kilo devices.
At the current time I am satisfied with the results of roasting with a
Behmor and I usually roast a pound at a time. But, every individual will
have to assess their own situation to see if it satisfies their objectives.
Bruce Garley
New Port Richey, FL
Stillwater, MN
San Juan Capistrano, CA and the list goes on ...
 
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3) From: David Rossell
This list is full of roasters with far, far more experience than I have, bu=
t I can't help but feel that the Behmor has gotten a bad rap in this thread=
.  I regularly roast 12 oz of beans on P3 without any problem at all of get=
ting them through first crack and into second (if that's what I'm shooting =
for).  I sometimes roast 1 lb. of beans, again without a problem reaching f=
irst crack.  I don't use a voltage regulator or any fancy electrical device=
s.  I plug in the Behmor put in the beans, and it just works.  =
For me at least, the Behmor fills a crucial niche--an indoor roaster that c=
an do 12-16 ounces of coffee per batch.  I "hack" the P3 roast profile by o=
pening the door during and after first crack to stretch the roast a bit.  A=
m I not squeezing every last bit of flavor out of the beans?  Almost certai=
nly.  Are my roasts 100 percent reproducable.  Nope.  But that's okay, sinc=
e I'm roasting for my own pleasure and that of my family and friends.  And =
I can do it under my range hood without filling the house with smoke.  =
That's an amazing machine.
David
	=

4) From: Mark Jones
I agree with David; Joe built a solid machine and it serves my purpose. 
Mark P. Jones

5) From: Rich
I would tend to agree with you that the Behmor is being just plain 
bad-mouthed.  Trying to roast 1lb of hard beans on P-3 will never 
turnout well.  And if the beans are cold it will be a disaster.
On 12/13/2010 08:45 AM, David Rossell wrote:
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6) From: John Nanci
I spoke with Joe about some of this thread, and he told me some 
interesting things.
To the question of why can't you just keep adding time, the answer is 
basically this. There is no other 1 lb roaster on the market.  It's 
is a new animal and basically has new 'rules'.  No manufacturer would 
build it without time limits after they themselves saw how 
differently 1 lb of beans behaves as compared to 1/2 lb.  Basically, 
his hands were tied.  Likewise, he could not get insurance nor ETL 
approval for the roaster without this feature.  It's one of those 
realities of the market.
And for those vocal few (no offense) that can't reach 2nd crack just 
when they want, there are 10 fold or more who can.  Just something to 
think about.
John
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7) From: Hank Perkins
I am glad the Behmor meets your needs. If you go back and read my original email on why I bought the Quest you will see how I got there. The Behmor is capable of roasting coffee. I had difficulty achieving repeatability. I am used to manual control in the things I use. The begining of the end for me was the last bit of Kona I had. It was around 13 oz. Roaster was clean. I used P2  1 pound and a preheat.  After all + ups the coffee never hit C1. I tried to drink it. It went in the drain. 
My main  issue with the Behmor is as follows. There is a disconnect between the roaster and the instructions. Secondly I believe I baked as much coffee as I roasted. 
Even so, at $300 as an entry level for what it does it is a buy. I was unsuccessful at producing the roasted coffees I know the green beans are capable of. 
Thanks,
Hank 
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2010, at 10:40 AM, John Nanci  wrote:
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8) From: Allon Stern
On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:45 AM, David Rossell wrote:
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I don't think that anybody doubts the capabilities of this roaster.
However don't gloss over its limitations.
I liken the Behmor to a point-and-shoot camera. In unskilled hands, it can product acceptable results. In moderately skilled hands, it will produce better results, but once you reach a certain level, the automation and limitations become an overriding factor, and the machine becomes frustrating because it will not do what you want it to do.
I love my Nikkormat FT2.
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allon
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