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Topic: Yama pot advice (8 msgs / 182 lines)
1) From: Dennis Guyer
After using the AeroPress for over two years, I decided to order the Yama Vacuum pot.  I have now done three pots and have a question for those who have been using this system.  How do you clean out the coffee grounds?  It seems like no easy task.  No matter what I do there is some left in the container that I have to use water to flush out and it goes down the sink.  For you that are also plumbers, will this cause a clog after enough time?  Also, my draw down times are around 2:30 using the cloth filter.  Is this in the neighborhood of what I should expect?
Thanks for any advice,
Dennis
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2) From: Bonnie Polkinghorn
Hello Dennis,
To clean out the grounds, I wear dish washing gloves and dump those grounds
in the compost bin.  As you say, there are always some left in the container
that go down the sink.
I've never timed the draw down - I guess I'm always doing other things at
that time so I ignore it.
I use the cloth filter that comes with it, but I think other list members
use a glass filter that is made for a different brand of vacuum pot but fits
in the Yama.
If you are using the cloth filter - do not do this if you are using the
glass filter - only if using the cloth filter, when you take the pot off the
heat, you can give the coffee in the top a few stirs round and round.  Then,
the grounds mound up in a half sphere above the filter.  I use the AeroPress
stirrer to do this.
-Bonnie
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3) From: Bob Glasscock
Hey Dennis,
I use my Yama daily. We save the grounds for the roses. What grounds 
are left go down the sink to be processed by the disposal. If you don't 
have a disposal, an inexpensive screen mesh drain filter will catch the 
grounds. I prefer the Cory rod over the cloth filter - easy to clean 
and does a great job. Draw down times vary with the roast and grind. 
The vacpot took some getting used to, but the results have been well 
worth it. Second choice is my vintage Chemex, then French Press, then 
the Clever Coffee Dripper followed by the Aeropress. I'm still very 
much a neophyte with all this roasting/brewing/cupping, but it's a 
relatively harmless vice and keeps me out of more serious trouble. Good 
luck with the Yama. 
  --
  Bob Glasscock
Greenville, AL
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4) From: Maxwell Heathcott
I second the Cory rod recommendation.  It works consistently, and clean-up is a snap.  
I send grounds down the disposal drain as well. 
I focus more on total time than on draw-down time.  I go 2:30 of time BEFORE draw down: 200F Hot water into pot.Flame at high until water "bubbles" (all water is drawn into upper chamber).
Start timer.Flame at low, then coffee added and stirred once. Water should continue to bubble lightly every 1 second or so.When timer stops, flame on high for about five seconds, until rapid bubbling again.Set entire pot on cool marble countertop.Drawdown takes no more than 90 seconds, for a grand total of about 4 minutes steeping time. 
YMMV. 
MH
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5) From: Yakster
I'm also a glass rod vac pot user, but I upgraded from the Cory rod to a
Silex Lox-In rod with a spring and a clip that keeps the rod in place.  This
avoids any bobbling around if the water is more agitated then usual and I
believe that it results in less sediment getting through.  It also makes
clean-up easier as I can invert and scrape a good portion of the grounds out
with my Yama stirring stick or bamboo stirring stick.  The rest gets rinsed
down the drain to have the disposal take care of it.
I've just ordered a Pyrex rod with an 8" locking spring which should make it
even easier to use, the little chain of balls on the Silex stopps about 1/2"
above the bottom of the tube so I have to use something to reach in and grab
it to pull it down and lock it in, with the Pyrex, it should be easier.
Have fun!  I make a vac pot every Sunday and some Saturday's and if I had
time, I'd use it every day.
-Chris
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6) From: Seth Grandeau
I use the Yama 8-cup with a Cory rod purchased off of ebay for just a few
$.  I heat the water in the bottom bulb until it boils (top bulb is in the
stand), then I dial it back down to simmer.  I put the coffee in the top
bulb, and when the bottom bulb is down to a bare simmer, I put the top bulb
onto the bottom and start my timer.  Water starts to flow up immediately.  I
use the stirrer to make sure all the grounds get wet, but no further
stirring.  I let it go 2:30 from when I attach the upper bulb.  When the
timer sounds, I move it to a cold part of the stove and let it draw down.
Normally, it's 70-90 seconds.
If you use the Cory rod, keep the stirring to a minimum.  I used to try to
stir it to get the mound, but it just draws the coffee grounds down to plug
up the rod and stalls the brew, ruining the pot of coffee.
Have fun.  Play around with the grind and the brew times.  I usually go
slightly coarser than I would for drip coffee, but not all the way to french
press.  Coarser grind will give you faster draw down times, but slower
extraction.
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7) From: Dennis Guyer
Thanks for all the great advice I have received.  I am trying everyone's 
ideas.  It is just like when I started with the AeroPress.  I had to gain 
experience before I found what I liked with grind, amount and time.  For 
now, I will stay with the cloth filter until I gain more experience.  When I 
have some idea of what I am doing, I may order the glass rod with my next 
order from SM and give that a go.
Again, thanks for all the advice,
Dennis

8) From: Bob Glasscock
I like the cloth filter, too, Dennis. It does prevent fines from 
seeping into the brew somewhat better than the Cory rod and it is 
virtually stall-proof, but it is a little more trouble to clean up. SM 
does not carry the Cory rod, and imho the lighter Cona rod just doesn't 
do  as good a job as the Cory (with the Yama). Having not tried the 
Pyrex rod I cannot comment, but it sounds like a pretty nifty gadget. 
Just enjoy. 
  --
  Bob Glasscock
Greenville, AL
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