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Topic: Quest M3? (18 msgs / 417 lines)
1) From: Michael Vanecek
Does anyone know if Quest is going to come out with a 1lb or half-kilo 
version of their little Quest M3?
Be well,
Mike
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2) From: Edward Bourgeois
It would have to be 220v and it's a very small shop so unlikely from my view.
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3) From: John Nanci
Why do you say it would have to be 220V?  How many amps does the M3 draw?
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4) From: Edward Bourgeois
Hey John,
I think you can do a pound with a 15amp circuit but you'd need an
exhaust system for the increased batch size. If you go with an
afterburner system that's when I feel you get short on juice and then
have to deal with lack of headroom with line voltage variables that
many people have at home.
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5) From: miKe mcKoffee
I tend to agree. While a 1lb capacity 110V 15A roaster "can" be made, as
evidenced by the Behmor, just doesn't seem viable with good response or
control at an affordable price point. 
Seems theoretically might be possible since a good response 1lb roaster like
the USRC .5k uses a max 5,000 BTU gas burner and 5k BTU = 1464W = 13.3A
@110V, that's just the heater. Add the drum motor, fan and any electronic
controls pushing over the 110V 15A magic number. Now if it was designed with
cutting edge methods that recycle exhaust air back to roasting likely could
be done, but back to affordability. 
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6) From: Edward Bourgeois
The heating  and closed exhaust system similar to the Loring would
seem like the direction to go.
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7) From: miKe mcKoffee
Yup, and that technology ain't cheap. Could highly likely make an excellent
efficient 1lb 110V 15A and smokeless at that roaster, but what market is
there for a $5-$10k 1lb roaster?!
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8) From: John Nanci
You are telling that true.
OTOH, I guess why I was wondering out loud is that my roaster is 20 
amps (heaters, motor and fan included), is at partial power (60-70%) 
when smoke suppression would be needed, and does without effort 1.5 
lbs.  1 lb at 15 amps based on that seems more than feasible, 
especially one without any safety controls (I mention that because 
many of the Behmor's limitation are ETL imposed for general consumer 
safety regs).  As it is, I had a modified Behmor on the bench that 
does just that.  Extra element when the after burners are off (at the 
beginning of the roast), and no temperature limits, and it cranks 
through 1 lb in 10-11 minutes on 15 amps.
Not looking for an argument, just musing out loud.
Alchemist John
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9) From: miKe mcKoffee
Alchemist, besides extra heating element didn't/doesn't your modified Behmor
also have a faster drum motor which would give better bean movement hence
better convection than the anemic 6rpm stock motor?
IIRC your roaster is a custom job with insulated roast chamber. If you
believe it can be duplicated in an efficient, affordable 1lb 110v 15A model,
go for it and sell it! I know, easier said than done. But highly likely IS a
decent market for a $1-$2k 1lb 110V 15A quality roaster. Just gotta wonder
if so why there isn't one out there. Heck there are those supposed 3lb 110V
15A Homer roasters on eBay for $239 etc., not that I'd trust them...
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10) From: Michael Vanecek
Ooh - that's right!!! I want a US Roaster 3 or 5K but would really like 
to have a .5k for small batches and perhaps a step-up roaster from my 
1/2 pound roasters.
Be well,
Mike
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11) From: John Nanci
Yes, that is true.  It has a 45 rpm motor.
To answer the 'make it and they will buy it' card, all I can say is 
I'm busy with Chocolate Alchemy.  And I don't have the $1000's (or 
10-100's thereof) to bring one to market.  Then we talk insurance - 
or lack thereof because it couldn't get certified.  Nope, no way 
would I play that round of Russian roulette.  And certification and 
insurance from the best I can tell is why there isn't one out 
there.  It's why I make my own and am happy there.
But I'll circle it around to the M3 at 1 lb - it's not certified 
already(and what happens if someone has a fire and yelled lawsuit? I 
don't really want to think about that) but should be able to be 
ramped up to handle 1 lb.  Then again, having not seen one, I don't 
know if the drum could handle it.
Alchemist John
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12) From: Edward Bourgeois
I agree, I had considered making a few  Dreamroasts to offer. Then I
talked with my Lawyer friend. You either go all the way or stay happy
with your own. There's no in-between that allows you to sleep well.
Even the old selling as kit work around is no longer a way to avoid
getting hauled into court. from what I was told.
Someone on H-B attached a heat gun to the M3 to increase batch size
some.  But I'm not sure the solid drum is big enough to add an element
and get enough extra heat transfer to increase the batch size very
much.
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13) From: Robert Yoder
How about selling plans?  Would that protect you from the sharks? Happy Roasting, robert yoder
 > Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:53:00 -0400
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14) From: Hank Perkins
I regularly use a heat gun with my Quest. I roast 300g loads with the gun. 
Thanks,
Hank 
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15) From: Edward Bourgeois
The DIY crowd  at that level is now pretty small. I've helped a few
around the world build something a little simpler over the years but
more of an improved SC/TO. There still seems to be a couple DIY small
drum roasters made each year.
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16) From: Rich
I suggest searching YouTube. The transfer of drawings or plans should 
not incur any liability but you never know.
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17) From: Michael Vanecek
How do you compare that to 300g loads sans the gun?
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18) From: Hank Perkins
Biggest load I could roast within 15 min without the gun was 265. With the gun I can do 300g in less than 8 but only I target 1C at 8.5 then if I go into C2 I shoot for 12 - 13 min for a drop. 
Thanks,
Hank 
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