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Topic: E-mail addresses hijacked. (17 msgs / 627 lines)
1) From: Earl Hoing
I'm sorry to report my e-mail address book was hijacked.
 
The email sent out was just a line or two of nonsensical letters and symbols.
I've no idea who sent it or what it means.  I've changed my password to try and prevent this again.
 
Sorry,
Earl
Just be yourself;
everyone else is taken.
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2) From: Lynne
That happened to me awhile back - since then, I found out that it's not
that uncommon. Very, very annoying though - everyone should make sure they
have a good virus protection installed on there computer (I've recently
started working on a PC instead of a Mac, so I found a great free one -
Avast - I'm sure there are others out there).
Lynne
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3) From: Frank Parth
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Earl,
Sorry to hear that. It happens. Changing your password usually doesn't do much except keep the hackers out of access 
tothe list using your e-mail address.
If it was just a line of nonsense, then what they're doing is testing to make sure they have a useable address. If it 
had kicked back to them as unusable they would move on to someone else's address.
Now that they have your e-mail addy, they will probably use it multiple times to send out spam, and there ain't much 
you can do about it. Eventually they'll get tired of using your address and use someone else's.
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4) From: Rich
To actually fix the problem and prevent reoccurrence you have to change 
your e-mail address and use something other than a highly popular 
preinstalled e-mail client or many web based services.
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5) From: Jim Couch
My go to AV has been AVG for years
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6) From: Joseph Robertson
Hi Lynne,
Avast is good. I used it for a number of years. AVG as well. After I read
up more and understood what they do and somewhat how they do it I went to
the paid versions. Mostly because I wanted the auto scanning with the
latest virus / malware signatures.
I got by for a long time just downloading the lastest bug signatures
manually.
One's behavior and habits when using the web is probably the most determine
factor as to how many infections you will accumulate.
Happy roasting to you,
Joseph
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9) From: Frank Parth
Steve,
Ubuntu is good. But it requires far more technical knowledge than the vast majority of people want to deal with. People 
just want their computer to work and not have to configure it and deal with the limited number of programs available 
for minority OSes. I enjoy playing with Linux occasionally, but I can't afford to run my business on it. I need 
something that employees can easily understand and work with.
One threat-monitoring site,http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002300.html,has just released their report on 
the amount of mal-ware for the Mac OS. They say there are several dozen new baddies out there for the Mac (most of 
which  are trojans which can only be accessed by logging onto bad web sites (most file-sharing ones)). But compared to 
the millions of mal-ware threats for Windows I feel perfectly safe.
The US Air Force bought 25,000 Apple computers back in 1984-85. That's how I got exposed to them. I've been buying 
Apple products for my own use since 1987. I stay logged on the Internet 24 hours a day (often in some odd countries), 
have  no anti-malware software, and have never had a virus, trojan, or macro virus.
By comparison, when I boot up Windows 7 (using Fusion in a virtual environment) it takes 30 minutes or so to download 
and install all the current mal-ware updates. I try not to bring up Windows unless I need to use MS Project for a 
client.
But this is getting far off-topic. To get this back to coffee roasting, I enjoy using Artisan S/W to run my Quest when 
I roast so I can get repeat-able roasts.
Did I do good bringing this back to roasting?
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Frank
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10) From: Joseph Robertson
Frank,
Although the idea here is to stay on the home coffee roasting topic,  the
subject of this thread is, ( E-mail addresses hijacked.) I for one buy
green coffee online and this subject came up because a spammer got onto
this list with a ( click on and your screwed, I mean hijacked ) link. I
know Tom wants us to be safe and purchase his beans and products with out
to much worry of internet safety. I for one really appriciate your comment
on the challange of a linux OS. It really helps me understand the issues we
are faced with to use this list on a daily basis as I know I do. You put in
plain english what I would have like to be able to mention about Linux
OS's. Thank you. Seems so true with a Windows OS, you really need to think
before you click and watch where you surf.
Happy roasting when you get back to it. That's were I'm heading now.
sincerely,
Joe
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11) From: Rich
The current releases of Ubuntu are as user friendly as windows and 
unless you just have to have MS software all the same functionality. 
There is a huge active Ubuntu community that is actually helpful. You 
are not required to know how to use a command line or terminal with 
Ubuntu and you will never have to tweak a configuration file. This was 
not true with Ubuntu 8.4 but the current release is 11.10. The Android 
smart phone is running Linux and many of the net-books run Linux. 
Likewise most of the tablets. Linux is considerably more secure.
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12) From: Joseph Robertson
Rich,
Thanks for the update on Ubuntu. I was going in that direction once before
this significant update to 11.10. Now it is looking very attractive.
Of course I'm a serious geek anyhow.
Joe
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the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure or
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13) From: Mike Davis
I think often we get paranoid about our computer systems to the point of 
going overboard.  I've run Windows machines since the days of the 
original IBM-PC with never a problem on my own computer.  I have had 
mailing lists "stolen" from other sources, however, but never directly 
from my own machines.  (Yahoo had a very old e-mail contact list of mine 
hacked and used for spam back in the days I used Yahoo e-mail readers 
which tipped me off when e-mails from persons long deceased bounced.)  
Common sense in web surfing is the best way to avoid problems, and never 
click on an embedded link unless you KNOW the sender and the link is an 
intentional inclusion in their e-mail.
I run Windows 7 64-bit with Microsoft Security Essentials (free for 
downloading), Avast! anti-virus (free version), WinPatrol and then 
Malwarebytes as an occasional second opinion run.  These have been 
chosen because they are mutually compatible (unlike recent Symantic 
products or Zone Alarm, both of which can cause major problems with 
Windows built-in firewall).  All updates are manually downloaded every 
morning before logging onto the net and sometimes checked again during 
the day.  I do not want my programs "phoning home" during heavy 
CPU-intensive work, causing my computer to stumble or asking for a 
reboot.  I keep minimal personal information on my computer, and any 
files remotely interesting to a hacker are password protected behind my 
AV and firewalls.  Never a problem.  I don't have time to learn a new OS 
for the sole purpose of sending and receiving e-mails.
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14) From: Seth Grandeau
one of the best things I've found for protecting myself, on-line, is
one-time-use credit card numbers.  I use Citi Bank, but other card issuers
have them also.  You can generate a unique number, for each purchase, and
you can even control the total $ amount that can be charged to a number.
It's a very simple, very effective way to protect yourself, financially,
online.
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15) From: Dhananjaya
Frank,
I know you want to get back on topic, so do I, but if it takes you 30
minutes to update your malware / virus databases in Windows 7, there is
something SERIOUSLY wrong with your setup. I use Oupost Firewall Pro and
Avast Free Antivirus. They only take a few seconds to update through my DSL
connection and it happens automatically.
Obviously you love your Apple products, as do some of my friends, no problem
there, but disseminating misrepresented information to make another product
look bad is just, well, plain bad taste. And let's face it, back then there
was little Mac population to interest hackers. Nowadays things are a bit
different. BTW, Mac OS is a flavor of Unix with an Apple GUI on top.
I have used Windows since the NT days - never have I been infected and I
work as a software developer and do all my shopping on the Internet. I also
use proven firewall and antivirus software. Most infections happen by
clicking on a link you should have been more careful about.
OK, back to roasting ...
DJ
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Steve,
Ubuntu is good. But it requires far more technical knowledge than the vast
majority of people want to deal with. People 
just want their computer to work and not have to configure it and deal with
the limited number of programs available 
for minority OSes. I enjoy playing with Linux occasionally, but I can't
afford to run my business on it. I need 
something that employees can easily understand and work with.
One threat-monitoring site,http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00002300.html,has just released
their report on 
the amount of mal-ware for the Mac OS. They say there are several dozen new
baddies out there for the Mac (most of 
which  are trojans which can only be accessed by logging onto bad web sites
(most file-sharing ones)). But compared to 
the millions of mal-ware threats for Windows I feel perfectly safe.
The US Air Force bought 25,000 Apple computers back in 1984-85. That's how I
got exposed to them. I've been buying 
Apple products for my own use since 1987. I stay logged on the Internet 24
hours a day (often in some odd countries), 
have  no anti-malware software, and have never had a virus, trojan, or macro
virus.
By comparison, when I boot up Windows 7 (using Fusion in a virtual
environment) it takes 30 minutes or so to download 
and install all the current mal-ware updates. I try not to bring up Windows
unless I need to use MS Project for a 
client.
But this is getting far off-topic. To get this back to coffee roasting, I
enjoy using Artisan S/W to run my Quest when 
I roast so I can get repeat-able roasts.
Did I do good bringing this back to roasting?
;)
Frank
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16) From: Frank Parth
DJ,
Thanks for the response.
It takes 30 minutes or so to boot into Windows because I only use it once every couple of months. I don't have any 
protection except for what's built into Windows itself, and I'm very careful not to be logged onto the Internet with 
Windows open except when I'm in the office, never when I'm at a client site or teaching a class on how to manage 
software projects using MS Project. I'm only logged on long enough to download the latest protection updates and to use 
MS Project or PrimaVera.
I learned my first programming language (I'm gonna date myself now) back in 1967. It was FORTRAN IV on an IBM mainframe 
using punchcards at Loyola University in Los Angeles. I was in high school at the time and they allowed us to use their 
computer. I've learned a few other programming languages since then and am well familiar with UNIX andthe fact that  a 
UNIX kernal is at the the core of the Mac OS.
I say all this merely to indicate that different experiences lead to different approaches. With over 30 years in 
technology development I've created an approach that works for me and for my employees. If it takes me longer to 
download and install security updates that's not a problem. I can keep on working while that's going on. If I'm doing 
something wrong I guarantee that my son, who's working on his graduate degree in computer science, will tell me about 
it.
Frank
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17) From: Joseph Robertson
Frank,
Thanks for your historical perspective. You dated me too.
Joe
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