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Topic: Fwd: Vac-Pot Temp (6 msgs / 149 lines)
1) From: Doug Hoople
If you buy one of the two Yamas (the most likely choice), it will come with
the cloth filter anyway, so you can get started right away.
The cloth filter is easier on newbies, and so might not be a bad way to go
for the early pots.  And the taint that I complain about is pretty faint,
so good pots can most definitely be had using the cloth filter.
The disadvantage with going straight into the glass rod is that you might
experience the dreaded delays or even stalls, and many potential vacpot
devotees have given up on the method rather than work through the issue.
But you might also not experience any delays at all.  Longtime glass-rod
vacpot users (decades, and thousands upon thousands of successful brews)
have NEVER experienced a delay or a stall.  They universally brew
lighter-roast coffees, and if you're in that category, then you can start
with the glass rod absolutely worry-free.
Whichever way you go, let us know. And enjoy!
Doug
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2) From: Doug Hoople
I chuckle a little when I think of the sediment that gets left behind when
brewing vacpot with the glass rod.  The first thing that pops into my head
is "French press."  The second thing that pops into my mind is the newbie's
general complaint about vacpot coffee that it's "too clean" (or the
equivalent observation that it's "too weak").
With the glass rod, there are, indeed, traces of sediment at the bottom of
the pot, usually no more than a thinly-distributed smudge about the size
and depth of a quarter.  I think of it like the sediment at the bottom of a
good bottle of red wine, and decline to pour the last drops of either.
And yes, there's no such sediment with the cloth filter.  The same could be
said of paper filters as well.  Both paper filters and cloth filters carry
taints of one sort or another, so I think it's a matter of picking your
poison.
But, in comparing the glass-rod vacpot sediments with the sediments in a
pot of French press, or in comparing the clarity of the liquid from the
glass-rod vacpot to a densely-particulated cup of espresso, my gut response
is "What sediment?"
Doug
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3) From: Larry Dorman
I'll let you know soon...  I just got my Yama and have brewed exactly
once using the cloth filter that came with it.  In a stroke of luck, I
was posting something on craigslist tonight and decided to do a random
search for coffee.  I found a listing for an antique glass percolator
cap and clicked on it for grins.  To my surprise there was also a cory
rod in that listing...  $5 later and it is now mine!  :)
So...  my second brew is going to be with the cory rod.  I'll let you
know how well or poorly it goes...
LarryD
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Just wondering if it would be better to start with a cloth filter and gradu=
ate to a glass rod in time or learn with glass rod from the onset.  Pros.=
..cons?
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4) From: Larry Dorman
I've used the cory rod twice now and had absolutely no problems either
time.  I'm already convinced to brew with the rod instead of the
filter...  I'm getting clean cups and not even a hint of a stall.
I'm glad I've brewed with both the filter and the rod just for the
experience, but I don't see that there is any reason not to jump
straight into using the rod if you have no interest in using the
filter.  Your mileage may vary if you use a different rod...
LarryD
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 Just wondering if it would be better to start with a cloth filter and gr=
aduate to a glass rod in time or learn with glass rod from the onset.  Pr=
os...cons?
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5) From: Seth Grandeau
But you can only get the zen like coffee mounds of spent grounds with the
filter. :)
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6) From: Doug Hoople
Nothing Zen-like about the mound, if by Zen we're to think elgance made
possible through complete mastery.
Any newbie can get the mound on your first try, with your first vacpot
righout out of the box.
As long as you're using the cloth filters, that is.
Now find me someone who, using a glass rod, can leave the mound without
delays or stalling... THAT would qualify as Zen mastery.
Doug
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