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Topic: Kopi rears its ugly head yet again (12 msgs / 350 lines)
1) From: Zara Haimo
Just got an offer for an 8 cup package of already roasted Kopi for $64 plus tax and shipping.  How could I resist?!  Wonder how long those beans have been sitting on the shelf not to mention whether they ever saw the inside of the cat's gut.  The marketing hype reads:
Since Kopi Luwak first passed Jack Nicholson's lips in The Bucket List, we've been gunning to get our hands on a pack. The world's most expensive, most rare, and most intriguing coffee has an unbelievable story: It's grown on the islands of Java and Sumatra, where Asian Palm Civets (aka "luwak") feed on ripe coffee cherries and then excrete them, whole. The beans are fermented within the cat's stomach and take on an unmatched flavor and richness. Continuously converting skeptics into fans,Kopi Luwak is one of the wonders of the food world. Talk about your diamond in the rough!
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2) From: Robert Yoder
Wouldn't that be a diamond in the rump? Happy Roasting, everybody! robert yoder
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3) From: Michael Wascher
BLEH!
Who would want Cat Crap Coffee when you can now have Elephant Feces Beans?!http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/30/most-exclusive-coffee-in-the-world-elep=hant-feces/
*"**Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero "*
— Horace
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4) From: Zara Haimo
Cats, elephants, what's next?  You can always buy some good beans from Tom,=
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6) From: Tim TenClay
I had the Jacu,,,actually have about 1 roast left of it and I'm saving it
(actually it's planned, now... but anyhow)... it was quite good!
I wish it'd come available again!
Grace and peace,
   `tim
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7) From: Lynne
Folks, this has been discussed on the list before (in fact, I seem to
recall Tom even wrote some about it).
Please, please, please - don't forget (and just in case some of our members
don't know): the Kopi Luwak animals are put through *horrendous* abuse in
order to obtain these kernels of profit. I don't know about any of the
other animals that process poop-coffee, but I suspect the same.
The Wiki  article states:
Due to the demand growing numbers of intensive civet "farms" are emerging
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This is a most horrendous way to make money, and I beg my coffee-loving
family here at SM's to think about this before giving any money to
perpetuate this abuse.
Guess I should have saved the bunch of coffee beans my dog ate & pooped out
about a year ago - could have made a good buck there - despite how toxic
they are for dogs, my Emma survived with nothing to show except a LOT of
activity... the same can't be said for these poor Kopi Luwak animals...
makes me wonder.... where is the 'human' in humanity?
Lynne
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8) From: Scot Murphy
On 12/12/12 8:16 PM, Lynne wrote:
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Thank you for posting this, Lynne. People, left to themselves, will do 
some pretty awful things in the name of filthy lucre.
Scot "like they need more reasons" Murphy
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10) From: Sheila Quinn
Yep...it's all about the money. Some people care more about profit than 
anything else, no matter what they do to get it. There is NO excuse for 
abuse.
Sheila
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11) From: Lynne
Scot & Sheila -
I wouldn't even have known if Tom didn't post about it a good while ago...
Hey, you can call me crazy, but I prefer my coffee to not run through poop
before I drink it anyway...
Lynne
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12) From: MobileMe
A month or so ago I spent 10 days in South Vietnam. One week teaching, then I took a tour of South Vietnam (after several years of teaching there one week a year I finally had enough time to actually see more of it than Saigon).
One day I was talking to the tour guide about how poor the coffee is that I've bought here ( the local markets, like the Ben Thanh market in downtown Saigon, sell mostly robusta beans as far as I can tell. They call them different names, but they all taste like robusta).
He said he knew a place that sold only the best coffee. So the last day of the tour he took me to a store that sold almost entirely weasel coffee, the Vietnamese version of Kopi Luwak. I held off buying any.
Frank Parth
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