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Topic: Turbo Oven Revisited (7 msgs / 191 lines)
1) From: Ed Needham
By the way Ryuji...
How are things working out with the Turbo Oven now that you've been using it
for a while?  Did you rig up something to agitate the beans as you discussed
in earlier posts?  These things are beginning to sell everywhere.  I've seen
them on Infomercials, in an ad (don't remember where...Wal-Mart?), and I saw
a review of another one in a local newspaper.  None of the applications I saw
mentioned roasting coffee though, but it is beginning to sound promising.
Ed Needham

2) From: Simpson
Ed, Ryuji... I bought one of these and would like to report on the fabulous
coffee roasts I have gotten with it... but I can't. We've kept the darned
thing too busy roasting almost every dinner we've had since it arrived at
the house. It is one well made little jobbie, and it does get to a legit
500 degrees according to an oven thermometer. Maybe someday it will roast
coffee, but right now it's slated for chicken tomorrow and beef tips on
Thanks Ryuji!
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3) From: Ryuji Suzuki -- JF7WEX
I know, people don't believe until they see it :-)
I have been busy with other things, but I'm certainly trying to get
one of those Stir Crazy and put them together. I probably drop the
voltage to Stir Crazy so that heat (and current loads on my power
line) balances out and agitation is just good. I already called our
favorite patent lawyer so that no one can sue me :-) (kidding)
My coffee has come out great every time. It tends to produce somewhat
uneven roasts, that is the only problem. I find it is easy to get a
lot of spicy notes from just about any bean, and I usually give myself
extra patience to subdue the spiciness when that's what I want. This
is, I think, a luxury because with other methods it's easier to get
flat smokey beans if you don't pay attention. Is this because of
unevenness of the roast? I can't tell for sure. When I underroast in
my oven, I don't get this kind of spiciness, so probably not. But
roast profile is all up to you, it's not just the matter of when to
hit the button. This method certainly is not for everyone.
If agitation is taken care by Stir Crazy, I see no reason it does not
satisfy my expectation. West Bend lists one for some like $40 a piece,
but if anyone recently bought one for cheaper price on the internet,
please let me know. I'm low on cash until next stipend transfer :-)
Also, Greg Halbrook tried Turbo Oven (because he wrote me personally -
I hope it's ok to mention your name, Greg - is your wife reading this
list?) so you might want to ask what he thought about it.
Ryuji Suzuki
"I can't believe I'm here.
People always say that I'm a long way from normal."
(Bob Dylan, Normal, Illinois, 13 February 1999)
From: "Ed Needham" 
Subject: +Turbo Oven Revisited
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:16:51 -0400
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4) From: Ryuji Suzuki -- JF7WEX
Maybe Sweet Maria should OEM that oven and put a warning label
"Sweet Maria Turbo Coffee Roaster
This is a coffee roaster; do not roast anything else.
If you do, it voids warranty - Tom!!!"
or something. Don't worry what the chefs rate it -
Ryuji Suzuki
"I can't believe I'm here.
People always say that I'm a long way from normal."
(Bob Dylan, Normal, Illinois, 13 February 1999)
From: Simpson 
Subject: Re: +Turbo Oven Revisited
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:25:34 -0400
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5) From: Ryuji Suzuki -- JF7WEX
I forgot to say in my previous post, but when you do double duty, you
sould make sure that the glass parts, especially the top glass (on the
lid around the heater assemnly) are free of food oil - it gives smell
of the food to coffee. (Maybe because my favorite is salmon - I wasn't
joking :-)
On the matter of cleaning, Oxy Clean (not the exact same one as John
Blumel suggested months ago, but the one sold at every store) does a
great job in getting coffee stain and odor off the cloth filter. It's
a mixture of sodium carbonate and percarbonate, so if you use it, use
stainless steel or enameled pot, never anything aluminum like
Calphalon! Also watch out not to let even the tiny drop of splash into
your eyes.
Ryuji Suzuki
"I can't believe I'm here.
People always say that I'm a long way from normal."
(Bob Dylan, Normal, Illinois, 13 February 1999)
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6) From: John Blumel
On 4/12/02 12:18 AM, Ryuji Suzuki -- JF7WEX wrote:
Actually, I think it is the exact same one that I suggested -- it's just 
that my footnote was completely wrong. (Oh, the dangers of hasty Internet 
John Blumel
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7) From: Greg Halbrook
At 12:37 AM 4/12/2002 -0400, you wrote:
      Heh, no she doesn't read the list.  She might not be happy with my 
using our oven for roasting coffee.  We are on our second turbo roast oven 
in about ten years and I just recently tried it to roast coffee.  I roasted 
some Sumatra Mandheling Gr. 1 DP and the results were fabulous.  Much 
better than any of my air popper roasts using the same bean.  It may be a 
poor analogy but I'd almost liken it to the difference between popcorn with 
and without salt - the flavors are that enhanced.  Keep in mind, though, 
that I am still relatively new to home roasting.
      I roasted four more batches last night (Yemen Mokha Ismaili, Kenya AB 
Gakui farm, Sumatra Lake Tawar triple-pick, and Malabar Gold) to see if the 
results are as good.  I am anxious to try the Yemen Mokha and will probably 
try it tomorrow morning after ~36 hours rest.  I also had some unevenness 
in the roast, especially in the center area of the holed aluminum pan that 
came with the oven.  I noticed today that there are no air holes in this 
area so maybe that was why.  I will try blocking that area off next time.
      As previously mentioned, the turbo oven also makes some of the best 
meals.  We are particularly fond of Cornish hen that has been marinated 
overnight in a soy based "chicken marinade" we find in the Asian 
markets.  I've seen some cheap turbo oven knock-offs out there in the last 
few years.  They're made of plastic and don't reach the higher temps.  If 
you're considering buying one get the right type.
      As an aside, I was thinking that it would be neat to use the 
circulating air energy for some type of clockwork bean agitator.  A little 
propeller to turn the gears, etc.
Ann Arbor, Mi.
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