Marc, I normally make 1 cup of coffee at a time using a swiss gold or french pr= ess Occassionally a paper drip. There is no problem. I place the beans in th= e grinder and it grinds them through. I use a hand grinder (Trespade) most = of the time and use my Solis when making more than 1 cup. --
I am beginning to become convinced that I need a burr grinder from reading posts lately about their merits over a whirly blade. Here is what I am wondering: I generally made only one cup of brewed coffee a day (either vac, drip or French press), using two-three coffee scoops of beans. In making such a small quanitiy am I going to lose an excessive amount of coffee to the grinder or can you easily clean out all that you grind as with a whirly blade? Thanks, Marc homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
a good burr grinder such as the Solis Maestro loses NO coffee to the grinder. The chute always stays clean and I've never had any leftover grounds in the grinder. YMMV jim
<Snip> Marc, Depending on the day, I might make a pot on the morning and then 2-3 single cups with my french press or swissgold filter during the day. I don't keep any beans in the hopper of my Solis Maestro. I just measure or weight out the quantity of beans to grind for that batch of coffee, dump in the beans and grind that batch. The Maestro leaves virtually nothing behind. The coffee drops almost vertically into the hopper. I clean it out with a brush once in a while. I guess I'll open it up for a good cleaning every few months, but I haven't gotten to that point yet. Bob Trancho homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Same thing for the Bodum Antigua
From: "Bob Trancho" The Maestro leaves virtually nothing behind. The coffee drops almost <Snip> Ditto both Bob & Jim on the Maestro leaving virtually zero grinds in chute. A HUGE improvement over the Solis Mulino 177... I find the Maestro near perfect. It's 18 step adjustment makes it very flexible from French Press to Turkish super fine grind. Though I'm finding for super fine tuning espresso a stepless infinite adjustment would be beneficial. Still it's more than adequate for my espresso needs (at this time with limited counter space!) MM;-) Home Roasting in Vancouver, WA USA homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 07:53 AM, wrote: <Snip> You sound like a good candidate for a Zasenhause hand operated grinder. Easy to keep clean and it helps occupy your time while the water is heating. If you want an electric, the Solis Maestro has a short path and does not collect grounds to get stale. Jim Gundlach roasting over pecan wood fires in La Place, Alabama homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Not that Jim ever needs a second, but I'd agree with him. I love my Zass 169 (covered hopper) And with all the coffee gear in my kitchen it seems to garner the most comments. It has an antique look about it that says "Coffee the old fashioned way." And it is an incredible grinder, will make talcum if asked.
My Maestro holds on to just over 1 gram, which is 8-12 beans depending on varietal and roast. I was curious about this myself because I can taste the last pot's coffee in the current pot. If I have a really bright coffee, like the Kenya decaf or the CR La Minita, then have a Yemen next, I can taste the brightness from the previous pot's grind. [BTW, 1 pot's worth of Yemen Mocca Raimi with 9 beans' worth of last night's Kenya decaf is *fabulous*!] Being a rather anal, er, um, detail oriented gal, I measured: First I cleaned the heck out of my grinder: disassembled everything and got in there with a brush, a Q-tip and a vacuum cleaner to get out every list bit. Then I measured out 1 Yama pot's worth of beans, which for me is 26 grams. My scale only reads in whole grams, so I carefully added the last few beans until the very last bean pushed it up to 26g. I ground the beans to my normal vac pot grind (3 clicks left of the drip icon), and then weighed the grounds. The scale said 24g, which, given the 1g readout of the scale, meant I could've lost between 1.01 and 2 grams. So I started adding beans. The first bean pushed it to 25g, which meant I'd lost closer to 1g than 2g; the 9th bean pushed it to 26g. So I'd lost ~9 beans worth of coffee, or about 1.1g. FTR, I was using CR La Minita, which is a large-ish bean, roasted to City, which is heavier per bean than the darker roasts. If you were using an FC/Vienna roasted Yemen, 1.1g is probably ~12 beans. (Actually, you might lose more of the darker roasted beans, since they're more oily and may stick more.) Note that you only actually lose the grounds on the first grind after cleaning. Thereafter some of the grounds just stay stuck in the nooks and crannies, and some of yesterday's grind gets pushed into today's pot. [Anyone know how to measure how much actually gets pushed through?] But on the second and subsequent grinds, 26g in should give you 26g out; otherwise your grinder would eventually fill up! When I really care about every last bit, like when I'm tasting my very first roast of a new bean, I'll grind ~10 beans to push out the stale grounds, throw the grinds away, then grind for my actual brew. But mostly I just live with a little bit of yesterday's coffee in today's pot -- it adds a touch more mystery to the flavor. Have fun! --JB <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast
Hi there everyone again this is steve, new roaster, new to fine coffee ect, ect, a couple of questions has anyone ever heard of de-pe box mill? a hand cranked coffee grinder similar looking to zass, does anyone know if the burr is good in this? I am asking cause I just bought it on ebay. This is my very first ebay purchase ever, and just in case this one sucks I am also the current high bidder on a "fassenhause" pepper mill. another question if someone ground pepper in this will it affect the taste of the coffee, I have read on the archives that fass is a zass, true? I talked with a nice gentleman from some distributor and he assured me that zass would be here in the USA by the end of the year. but I want one now (sound familiar anyone? )I have a horrible problem of always wanting more and never being satisfied. I also saw a pe-de on ebay and I was also wondering if this was made with the nice burrs or just cast iron burrs? anyone out there know for sure? I read on the archives that someone on these lists has a pe-de and is very happy with it. (jared maybe? I cant remember) on a side note I scored 2 filter cones for .25 cents and two popcorn pumpers 1200 & 1400 watt both pumpers for 4 $ to replace my poppery II if and when it stops working. they had just sold a box mill, I missed it by 3 days at the thrift store. thanks for any help with my questions. Steve in indiana --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.
The Pepper Mill will be much finer than a coffee mill. I own both. Yes a Fass is a mis-read Zass. The Pepper is great, but make sure you want a pepper mill before you up the bid.... I find the Trosser to be very similar to the Zass in craftsmanship and performance. I believe the other older German grinders will have similar performance... If the antique German grinder is NEW and MADE IN TAIWAN then all bets are off.... Cheers, Brett Once you get a Zass, and look at the handle, you'll immediately understand why. On 8/3/06, jay hobaugh wrote: <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast Zassman
On Aug 3, 2006, at 2:58 PM, jay hobaugh wrote: <Snip> Zassenhause makes a great pepper mill. I would not use it for coffee except in an emergency. For one thing it takes a long time to grind even a small amount. Fassenhause is caused by people not being able to read formal German script and they think the Z is an F. It means the seller does not know grinders. Jim Gundlach
Great to see you posting again Pecan Jim. Great work over the summer. The latest scandal on the football team in your state of origin, Oklahoma, certainly has put an exclamation mark on this whole issue. Looking forward to some more of your coffee insights. Les On 8/3/06, jim gundlach wrote: <Snip>
Thanks Les, it will be good to start paying attention to coffee again. For the past couple of months I've been roasting when out, cooling, grinding, and brewing without resting. And I have this Andreja to connect to a filtered water supply and tune. Had large pecan limb come down from one of the trees last night. Lots of roasting fires in that baby. Pecan Jim On Aug 4, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Les wrote: <Snip>
"...the seller does not know grinders." Isn't that the definition of eBay? That's the caveat for the other party in the transaction- the buyer. Ask questions, ask for pictures if you can't form a realistic picture in your mind from the facets described by the seller. What could the bad surprises be? Ask specifically. If, "I have no knowlege of that," Heraus mit dem hände hoch! Forget it an= d let others learn the hard way. -- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Might= y Wichita (ex-NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976
I pulled the trigger on it anyway. I just couldnt wait. here is the link if anyone wants to look at the "fassenhaus" I think it looks like a knee grinder myself. I will tell everyone once I get it how it works and all.and if it is a zass or a fass :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/GERMAN-PEPPER-MILL-SPICE-MILL-FASSENHAUS-WOODEN_W0QQitemZ190015666116QQihZ009QQcategoryZ20645QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem like I said it looks like a zass knee grinder to me. Steve --------------------------------- Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.
That's not a pepper mill, it's a coffee mill. Very similar to my Fassenhaus 499. Regards, Brett Zassman On 8/5/06, jay hobaugh wrote: <Snip> if <Snip> nd <Snip> temZ190015666116QQihZ009QQcategoryZ20645QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt= em <Snip> oo! <Snip> -- Regards, Brett Mason HomeRoast Zassman
--Apple-Mail-1-382688119 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset O-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed It is the knee grinder. I have one and it is my favorite Zass. The main reason I like it most is that the bottom end of the rotating burr shaft is secured. It just does not make sense to me that you can get an even grind from a grinder that lets the bottom of the rotating burr shaft wobble around. I'll admit that I don't have empirical evidence to support this but in this case I went with my feeling and gave the wobbling shaft Zasses to children and friends. Pecan Jim On Aug 5, 2006, at 3:11 AM, jay hobaugh wrote: <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> --Apple-Mail-1-382688119 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset O-8859-1 It is the knee grinder. I = have one and it is my favorite Zass. The main reason I like it most = is that the bottom end of the rotating burr shaft is secured. It = just does not make sense to me that you can get an even grind from a = grinder that lets the bottom of the rotating burr shaft wobble around. = I'll admit that I don't have empirical evidence to support this but in = this case I went with my feeling and gave the wobbling shaft Zasses to = children and friends. Pecan Jim On Aug 5, = 2006, at 3:11 AM, jay hobaugh wrote:
Jeez ... so how do I become your friend? And I'm long past being a child, but could work on being childish more often! BTW: Have you seen today's Tank McNamara?http://news.yahoo.com/comics/tankmcnamara(apologies if you've already been inundated with copies). On 8/5/06, jim gundlach wrote: <Snip> is <Snip> d <Snip> but <Snip> temZ190015666116QQihZ009QQcategoryZ20645QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt= em <Snip> oo! <Snip> roups.yahoo.com/local/newemail.html> <Snip> -- "There is nothing new under the sun but there are lots of old things we don't know." -- Ambrose Bierce
Jay I do have a PeDe grinder that is likely pretty old and love it. This may seem hard to believe but it does a much better job than my brothers 2 year old Zass. I am sorry I missed this original post on 8-3-06 but hope you got the PeDe and love it. I can find almost no info online about it. Jared On 8/3/06, jay hobaugh wrote: <Snip>