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Topic: Vac Pot for Newbies (3 msgs / 89 lines)
1) From: Benjamin L. Alpers
I disagree.  I once had a Bodum Santos.  I found it very unreliable; 
it kept stalling.  The problem was the plastic filter Bodum uses (see 
a thread from earlier this year in which a number of folks discussed 
the plusses and minusses of different filters on vacpots).  After a 
week of using my Santos, I got frustrated and, not having a resource 
such as this (we're talkin' early 1990s), I gave up on vacpots for 
about a decade.
Last year I bought a Yama from Tom.  I love it.  It's my #1 method of 
brewing coffee now.
My advice: choose the Yama over the Santos.
-- Ben Alpers
    Norman, OK
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2) From: Glenn R. Holmes
Shucks Ben, guess I asked for that one. :=)
I have used glass rods etc and until I realized that a large part of the
problem was the technique that I had which caused some choking of the
vacpot also. I've had the Bodum for 3 years and no problems other than
my startup ones. 
As you allude, this resource...homeroast list, alt.cofee etc., has
helped tremendously. Who would you swap notes with in the early 1990's?
prior to this.To tell you the truth I had given up coffee entirely. When
I was disabled in 1999 I stumbled on COFFEEKID and SweetMarias and gave
it another try. I recovered from my disablement but not from the love of
coffee I've developed.
In most comparisons I have not seen the Santos come out on top even
though it is actually a pretty good starter unit. The Yama may be better
but the Santos is not bad in its own right.
Nice observation and advice you gave though. 
My actual favorite?  One of my Silexes. Its old and beaten up but I KNOW
that brewer. Pure heaven each time.  
 
Glenn    
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3) From: John Blumel
On 6/2/02 10:59 PM, Benjamin L. Alpers wrote:
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I'll second this advice. Unless you need/want the extra capacity of the 
Bodum, the Yama is, in my opinion, the better of these two vac pots. Not 
only are stalls (almost) not an issue with the Yama, but I think it also 
makes a better cup of coffee. I haven't done any measurements but I think 
this is because the Yama maintains a more optimal temperature in the 
funnel. The coffee from the Yama is certainly hotter. With the Bodum I 
always had to preheat my cups. I actually think I get a better cup from 
my Yama than my Hario Nouveau.
The other really nice thing about the Yama is the filter gasket. It goes 
into place in the bowl very definitely and removing it at the end is very 
easy -- just twist and pull gently up. The Bodum gasket isn't nearly as 
nice and does not fit into the bowl as easily. I always have to fiddle 
with it a bit to make sure it is straight and snug, then, when the brew 
is finished, it can be a struggle to get the funnel out as the gasket 
does not release easily.
If you don't want to deal with the cloth filters in the Yama, you can get 
a Hario Nouveau filter set with paper filters, which works fine in the 
Yama. (It also works fine in the Bodum and eliminates the stall issue.) 
If you do get the paper filter set, it makes a big difference in the cup 
if you rinse the filters with water before using them. On the other hand, 
using the cloth filters isn't as much of a hassle as it seems it might be.
One thing to note about the Yama is that they are not all exactly the 
same size and the cup markings on the side can vary by a couple of 
ounces. I've had 2 Yamas and 16oz in the first one was right at the 3 cup 
mark. In the second one, 16oz is just below the 4 cup line. Of course, 
it's not a big deal to use a measuring cup to fill the bowl.
John Blumel
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