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Topic: 'Killer' bees make killer coffee (8 msgs / 110 lines)
1) From: Zara Haimo
For an interesting and thought-provoking article about the effect of African
bees and the environment on coffee production:http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast">http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/06/14/coolsc.coffee/index.htmlhomeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast

2) From: Charlie Herlihy
      Zara sent this:>For an interesting and thought-provoking article about the effect of 
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That is a good article, thanks for sending it. But did you notice what  a crappy looking batch of coffee they had in the photo? I thought it might be cacao untill I noticed one obvious coffee bean in there. Maybe they were decafinated?
Charlie
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3) From: Al Raden
Charlie Herlihy wrote:
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Indeed, I was trying to figure out what that was in the first photo that 
the guy had his hands in...  not sure the caption helped, unless it was 
a bag of dead killer bees.
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4) From: Lahtaydah
In a message dated 6/14/02 2:59:47 PM Central Daylight Time, 
zapcafe writes:
<< That is a good article, thanks for sending it. But did you notice what  a 
crappy looking batch of coffee they had in the photo? I thought it might be 
cacao untill I noticed one obvious coffee bean in there. Maybe they were 
decafinated?
 
 Charlie >>
Hi Charlie, it's Lee from this past week's roaster seminar!  How are you?
I noticed that picture too.  I HOPE it was decaffeinated.  Otherwise, it was 
the highest defect coffee I have ever seen.  
Lee
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5) From: Michael Vanecek
Actually, it could very well be parchment. Ugly parchment - probably dry 
processed? Not yet washed?
Cheers,
Mike
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6) From: Charlie Herlihy
Micheael Vanecek wrote:"Actually, it could very well be parchment. Ugly parchment - probably 
dry 
processed? Not yet washed?"
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Well, Mike, those aren't bad guesses. I've strained my eyes trying to figure it out. Could be camera angle or distance but my guess as a former coffee grower and someone who picks and processes at least a little every year is: they're arabica, a longberry type, not washed in a fermentation tank,possibley a "semi washed process where they were depulped and dried without any water involved and not yet milled to remove parchment and not graded much as yet. If they were "dry processed" as in whole dried they would look more like whole dried cherries. Whole dried beans that have just been very crudely milled down to parchment can look this way, too. My first guess that they might just be decaffinated doesn;t seem right since they haven't been cleaned to the stage nessesary for that.  I just thought of one other possibility-they could be the "floaters" that are seperated from coffee about to be fermented and washed and left to whole dry. These are then milled roughly down to parchm
 ent and go to domestic consumption in the poorer coffee growing regions, often roasted parchment and all.. That unspeakably horrid cup you were served in Guatamala? You might be seeing the source in that photo. It's what every non estate coffee grower I know drinks every day. I've managed to open the eyes of more than a few coffee growers wives when I have them roast me some of thier primo stuff in order to cup it. When they taste thier export grade beens well brewed they're always amazed at how good it is and insist that "hubby" save a little, at least for the kitchen. Now that coffee prices are so low even for the best of their beans it doesn't seem like such a rich folks' luxury to do so.
charlie  
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7) From: Michael Vanecek
Of course, for the sake of the photo (you know them photographer types 
who simply must have that shot now rather than wait for the batch to 
come from the mill), he may have grabbed some ripe cherry off the trees 
and squeezed out the parchment.
Cheers,
Mike
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8) From: Charlie Herlihy
 Michael Vanacek wrote:>Of course, for the sake of the photo (you know them photographer >types 
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 I guess you more about photographers than coffee processing, Mike :^)  Squeezed fresh from the cherry the beans are shiny (and slimey) and light yellow
saludos,   Charlie
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